Yay for daycare centers!

Aztaroth · #1 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 11:34 AM

Actually, I'm not sure daycare center is the correct term for it, but whatever.

My brother is 5 years old, and goes to a "daycare center" when our parents are at work, as it usually is with the damned places. Well, my brother is constantly being teased, apparently, but being so young he doesn't really understand it too well, and thus doesn't realize what a bad thing it is.

Now here's an interesting little thing I heard from him today: The most popular game at the place.

It is called "Kill the girls".

Think about it.

5-year olds.

A game called "kill the girls"

WHAT THE HELL!?

Now I'm pretty proud of my brother because he refuses to participate willingly, though he is often forced to... though because of this they tease him and don't let him play most of their games with them, and say he isn't a boy, and when I asked him "What are you then?" he shrugged and said he didn't know. I'm seriously worried about him because of this...

Has anyone seen anything similar elsewere in the world?

Luis Antonio · #2 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 11:39 AM

What is a kill the girls game?

Ashen · #3 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 11:43 AM

I would have to say no and I am pretty sure that any kind of a game like this would be really frowned upon and it would be stopped right away. The bullying (I don't think of it as teasing) is even more problematic considering that we do indeed carry through a lot of these things throughout our lives. I must admit I'd talk to your parents if I were you and see just how serious this actually is.

Darzog · #4 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 11:44 AM

I've seen this type of thing forever and always. Kids always pick on each other for various reasons, boys pick on girls, and vice versa, it's just part of growing up. I honestly am not taken aback by what you've posted since it is the norm of young kids as far as I'm concerned.

Aztaroth · #5 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 12:37 PM

@Luis, the name doesn't give you enough hints? Actually I don't know what they do, but just the name is enough to make me disgusted

@Ashen, Bullying! Of course, that's the word I was looking for... couldn't think of it... but yeah, apparently the overseer-people at the place don't care... which I find REALLY odd

@Darzog, I agree, but "kill the girls"?? That's going a BIT too far, don't you think??

ch85us2001 · #6 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aztaroth

@Darzog, I agree, but "kill the girls"?? That's going a BIT too far, don't you think??

Nope. I think you'll find a lot of 5 year olds do things like this. It doesnt really mean anything. (when I was five, my cousin and I took great pleasure in slapping each other with plastic ball bats.)

Lestat · #7 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aztaroth

@Darzog, I agree, but "kill the girls"?? That's going a BIT too far, don't you think??

Well, when I was with the boy scouts we had a game called the "rape game", which was in fact fairly innocent, and it was the kids themselves that named it like that, not the leaders or so.

Damuna_Nova · #8 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 12:47 PM

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Well, when I was with the boy scouts we had a game called the "rape game", which was in fact fairly innocent, and it was the kids themselves that named it like that, not the leaders or so.

I hope you used protection.

Darzog · #9 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 01:46 PM

Kill the firls could be anything really. It could be tag (when tagged, they "die"), it could be like dodgeball with nerf balls, etc. I played both forms of games and both had names like "kill the XXXXX".

I used to play a game called "smear the queer". At the time I didn't even know what it meant except that queer obviously meant that you're it and everyone wants to find you. The name of the game itself shouldn't be a major issue unless the game itself involves the actual murder or major assault of girls.

And as far as the bullying goes, that is also part of growing up. People are jerks (if you don't believe me, read the recent posts in the SS) and you have to learn to deal with it one way or another. If you have someone else fight all of your battles for you how can you defend yourself when there's no one else around (and I don't mean just physically). Kids are tough. They can deal with a lot, and they should deal with it so they can grow into a strong and self-reliant person. Part of that is dealing with crap from other people.

Ashen · #10 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 02:08 PM

True but not when you are five, at least in my book. I can and will protect my child at that age from things like bullying.

I have friends who are gay, a couple (marriage is legal for gays here) and they have a boy who goes to kindergarden. You wouldn't believe what he was exposed to. Believe me that boy knows what queer is and he at the age of 5 understood all too well the intollerance for gay people in some, and this resulted in great, great problems. They ended up moving him to another kindy where the teachers were attentive and nipped those things in the bud. They spoke to children over why it is bad to say such things, what it means etc and took care of any parents that might have voiced displeasure. No problems ever since that time. We live in a society where these things should not happen, and should not be tolerated. We must not tolerate it. If a child learns certain behaviours at that age it is very difficult to change it afterwards but if you explain and promote tolerance and understanding it can lead to some great individuals.

Anyway, end of that rant, but children are capable of understanding a lot of things when you take the time and care to explain it them. This being one of those things that should be done here IMO because mark it, they are not only playing that, they are bullying his brother as well. No tolerance for such things and things will change. Accept it and nothing ever will.

Darzog · #11 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 02:14 PM

Well, your original post said nothing about racism, prejudice or other forms of "hate crimes". Those are a completely different thing and I agree need to be stopped immediately. You also didn't say anything physical abuse by the "teasers", which if it does happen should also be stopped.

But just general playground politics are something people need to deal with. And I tease my best friends more than anyone else, and I always have. It's part of being friends that they want you to do things with them, they make fun of you, you make fun of them, etc. If there really is something more serious going on I didn't catch it from your initial post (other than the name of the game which I consider a non-entity).

Ashen · #12 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 02:24 PM

Heh, not my post it's Aztaroth's

I understand what you mean, I had that in kindy too and of course I still muck about with my friends. It's normal socializing. But I at least got the feeling it is more than just one game from this:

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Originally Posted by Aztaroth

Now I'm pretty proud of my brother because he refuses to participate willingly, though he is often forced to... though because of this they tease him and don't let him play most of their games with them, and say he isn't a boy, and when I asked him "What are you then?" he shrugged and said he didn't know. I'm seriously worried about him because of this...

Now that can turn into the type of things like the one mentioned above. I chose the incident I know (from these friends of mine) as the most extreme but still even lesser things shouldn't be let go. Like the one above because you never know what it may turn to. It all has consequences.

Chimaera182 · #13 (**permalink**) 05-16-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aztaroth

Has anyone seen anything similar elsewere in the world?

My entire public school career?