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Old 05-07-2003, 07:55 AM
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Woo! Troika making a Vampire:TM RPG!

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/vtmb/news_6026275.html

Is it too early to nominate Tim Cain for sainthood?
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Old 05-07-2003, 10:53 AM
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This looks and sounds rather impressive, CJ. I'm intrigued; the concept of role playing a vampire never sounded more appealing, or fun.
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Old 05-07-2003, 11:10 AM
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It is rather embarrising, after reading that news I now find myself with a permanent chubby.... walking around the office is going to be embarrising.
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Old 05-07-2003, 11:11 AM
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Old 05-07-2003, 01:19 PM
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I hope the don't NWN's it! Read the line about the powers, strength, speed, invisiblity(No! that obtenebration!)

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Old 05-07-2003, 01:21 PM
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only the seven?.... a..e.g..h..... a....



Who the hell wants to be a cammie good for nothing lambs for the slaughter. I'll take my harbringer of doom, my Serpent of Light, my City Gangrel and my oh so pretty Nos and go somewhere else to play.
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Old 05-07-2003, 08:27 PM
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No comment on this right now. I'm still slappnig my head at the shear absurdness of the game concept.
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No comment on this right now. I'm still slappnig my head at the shear absurdness of the game concept.
Well, yes, but how many CRPGs can we name whose plots were anything more than a series of hooks to hang a bunch of battles upon, let alone something that advanced beyond AD&D fiction for thirteen-year-olds? Okay, let's see: Planescape: Torment, maybe Betrayal of Krondor, and...well...

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Well, yes, but how many CRPGs can we name whose plots were anything more than a series of hooks to hang a bunch of battles upon, let alone something that advanced beyond AD&D fiction for thirteen-year-olds? Okay, let's see: Planescape: Torment, maybe Betrayal of Krondor, and...well...

True enough, but given the first V:tM game that came out, I don't have much faith in it. The only selling factor of the first was the fact you were a vampire. The story was lack-luster, and much too linear.

And now, they're trying to make a sequel, but as an FPS...
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And now, they're trying to make a sequel, but as an FPS...

No, "they" aren't. "They" were Nihilistic Games. This is Troika. The guys who made Arcanum, who made Fallout when they worked for Black Isle.

Besides, it's not as if you can't do a good RPG from a first person perspective. Morrowind, anyone?
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take that you canuck!

Heh..
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Old 05-09-2003, 06:07 PM
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Besides, it's not as if you can't do a good RPG from a first person perspective. Morrowind, anyone?
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Old 05-09-2003, 07:44 PM
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And now, they're trying to make a sequel, but as an FPS...

No, "they" aren't. "They" were Nihilistic Games. This is Troika. The guys who made Arcanum, who made Fallout when they worked for Black Isle.

Besides, it's not as if you can't do a good RPG from a first person perspective. Morrowind, anyone?
By they, I'm refering to White Wolf, not Nihilistic, which is the first mistak White Wolf made when giving out the rights to make a new V:tM game.

As for the FPS comments, they specifically stated they are moving to a more action oriented game design, which speaks of two things. Diablo-esque, and FPS, neither of which is what RPG's are (and don't give me this load about all games being role playing games). From the sources I have read (more then the crap IGN produces), Troika is leaning heavily towards a combat basis, under the guise of 'evolving' the RPG genre.

And for the comments regarding Morrowind, true, it was first person, but it was not a first person shooter, which is what Troika has said they are tinkering with in Bloodlines design.

Besides, the design of the game is the least of my worries.

Anyway, I won't stop people from buying the game (how can I?), but I can say right now that this strikes me as flopping as badly as the first V:tM did.

@Cjevito: Just on a side note, Arcanum didn't get to good a vote on my behalf either. Too much of it seemed ripped from other games, with only the character openess being a positive note...
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@Cjevito: Just on a side note, Arcanum didn't get to good a vote on my behalf either.

Ah see, there I have to disagree. I thought Arcanum, flawed as it was, was one of the very best games of the past five years. To each their own, of course.
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