Women in Warfare

[Chanak]

Originally Posted by Ariona

I have been in and out of the military myself...a military police officer, in fact! Women (with proper training and understanding) can operate like their male counterparts...just as effectively, I might add! Women's hormonal cycles (minus pregnancies) do not stop women from playing their crucial roles from a military standpoint. The military does not allow such an excuse. Pregnant military personnel, however, are given special considerations (such temporary desk duty or consulting jobs) until their maternity leave is over...

Ah, an MP. My very first traffic violation was handed to me by an MP at Ft. Lewis, WA, in 1989. I was cited for failure to come to a complete stop at a stop sign...a "California roll". I think that might have been the MP's first ticket, too.

I knew female soldiers who were capable of putting out push-ups like any male on their PT test. I have no doubt in my mind they could "hang" humping all the gear they needed to. It's time for the military to remove the direct combat role restriction for females. Females already are permitted to perform in indirect combat functions...as an MP, for example, you could be assigned to an MP company in a combat zone.

[Obsidian]

Theres quite a division right now in the CF (candian forces) on where and how women should serve. Officially, they can serve any element, even infantry, and I know a few women in the combat arms. Some of them are very good. Some of them are very poor.
Generally though, they make poorer soldiers. I blame this more on a society that constantly tells girls about their roles than some inherint mental or physical weakness. I've seen some exceptional women in the forces.

But a lot of them, especially in the combat trades, lack the endurance and strength of their male counterparts, which breeds a certain resentment in the unit because they can't handle carrying the heavy weapons.

Another argument I've heard but don't really support, is that you have 50 young, unmarried men, and one unmarried women. She tends to stand out, and causes a division of loyalty in the unit.

That's my two cents.

[C Elegans]

Originally Posted by Demortis

i just found out i just screwed up when asking everyones opinions about a topic and now its biting me in the ass. there are just to many long (and wordy) things people have to say about some things. i really think its up to women to choose what they want, but i still feel its my duty to make sure that they dont come to harm thats all

You are of course entitled to your opinion, but I wonder why you put this thread up at SYM. You now call the thread a monster and screw up because you find people's replies too long and wordy for you, and you have the feeling that it's your duty to protect half the worlds population.

Why you have appointed yourself to take care of 3 billion people who have not asked for this and are your equal in taking care of themselves, is your personal issue, but I seriously think you should analyse your own motives.

[fable]

Focusing one more time on this:

i really think its up to women to choose what they want, but i still feel its my duty to make sure that they dont come to harm thats all

If I read you correctly, you're saying "Women can believe whatever they want, they're wrong. Men such as myself who are honorable are here to protect the poor creatures."

I see no other way to interpret this. I don't understand your "duty," and I don't understand how you can disparage half the human race by telling them they can believe whatever they think, you know better than they do how men should react around them.

[Demortis]

Focusing one more time on this:

i really think its up to women to choose what they want, but i still feel its my duty to make sure that they dont come to harm thats all

If I read you correctly, you're saying "Women can believe whatever they want, they're wrong. Men such as myself who are honorable are here to protect the poor creatures."

I see no other way to interpret this. I don't understand your "duty," and I don't understand how you can disparage half the human race by telling them they can believe whatever they think, you know better than they do how men should react around them

i was rasied with a code of honour. Stating: portect those who can not protect themselves. and Women should be protected at all costs.

"Women can believe whatever they want, they're wrong. Men such as myself who are honorable are here to protect the poor creatures."

no it doesnt relate to this. if women want the protection its there, if not then i wont worry about it till something is said.

[fable]

Originally Posted by Demortis

[b]i was rasied with a code of honour. Stating: portect those who can not protect themselves. and Women should be protected at all costs.

But calling it a code of honor doesn't explain the reasons for it, and this leaves me curious. Without meaning to be insulting in any way, why should women, in your opinion, be protected by you "at all costs?" And if this leads back to your statement about an honor code, then what is the reason you follow this honor code?

I know you're bright, so I can't help thinking that "somebody told me over and over when I'm a child to believe this" isn't the explanation, here. You obviously believe something about women that causes you to go along with this belief system you've presented. And I'm curious what that is.

[Demortis]

yes there is a reason, men, i mean real men. those who dont think twice about throwing their lives away, trying to protect the innocent. i try to aspire to that. but i find it hard to live up to. like the Samurai or the Knights of Old.
its something ive tried to live up to my whole life but have never quite reached. i just wondered if others thought this way or i was alil insane