What a moronic insinuation!

[Maharlika]

Taliban Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmed Mutawakel told Agence France-Presse that claims western intelligence services had evidence of bin Laden's involvement in plotting the attacks on New York and Washington were not credible.


Mutawakel said the Taliban had not made any military preparations for a fresh US attempt to take out bin Laden. "If the US attack Afghanistan without any reason naturally that would be international terrorism," he said.

He went on to suggest that this week's attacks may have been the work of Jewish groups aiming to consolidate US support for Israel. "There is a view that the Jews may have carried out these attacks in order to create a clash between the United States and the Islamic world."

Do you BELIEVE THIS GUY?!!!

Sheesh man, I could not believe that he would make such a stupid insinuation.

Are the Jews that dumb and so low and desperate to commit such an act? That would be not only a VERY RISKY thing to do, IT'S JUST PLAIN STUPID AND IMMATURE TO EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!

If indeed the Israelis are responsible, in the end they will be caught, and rest assured they would become a PARIAH to the whole international community.

I'm sorry, but with due respect, I DO NOT BUY THAT!!!

[Yshania]

This is the problem - the international panic is causing fingers to be pointed in all directions. I even heard the Japanese had been blamed.

The fact is, right now, the perpertrators have still not been publically identified. Yes officials are fairly sure, but they need to be ABSOLUTELY sure - without the slightest doubt - this is WAYYY too important for the US to rush in on a whim - they need the backing of all nations on this...let us not forget the bombing in Ohio was initially blamed on the middle east...

Bush has stated that whichever country is found to be harbouring the terrorists responsible for this attrocity will be seen to condone it. I agree with this...

With current rumours this must make Afghanistan EXTREMELY nervous.

As for an attack on Afghanistan being international terrorism, that is more laughable than blaming the Jews. Blaming the Jews is understandable 'it wasn't me - it was him!' Defence tactics.

[Jodmos]

LoL
The old Jewish conspiracy thingie, nobody takes that serious.
I mean just look at who made this statement.

[KidD01]

AFAIK world economy is controlled by Jews spread all over the globe. And it's huge possibility that most company which have office on WTC were Jews owned in majority. So based on this fact it's clearly another bullsh*t comes from that mans mouth. I guess common sense is required to see into source of the matter.

[Maharlika]

For Pete's sake, even the Japs?!!! Whatever happened to common sense?

Knowing Japanese culture, these people are a proud (in a non-offensive meaning) race when it comes to dealing with their enemies. If anything, the Japanese aren't cowards in the sense that they would not allow other people to take away their glory for doing their enemies in.

Nah... don't buy that bovine fecal matter either. Besides, the Japanese would not benefit from such an act of aggression/terrorism. Goodness, revenge? I know that there are a number of Japanese who still bear a grudge against the Americans, but I don't think that they are THAT PASSIONATE enough to be able to come up (the effort and all) with such a "daring" (albeit more on cowardly, really) attack on the US.

[Sojourner]

Originally posted by Maharlika:
<STRONG>"There is a view that the Jews may have carried out these attacks in order to create a clash between the United States and the Islamic world."
</STRONG>

What German TV station ARD is reporting is very sobering. While the Saudi government offers condolences, at the grass roots level is much the same feeling as reported in Palestine. They already believe we are at war. No Jewish conspiracy theories are needed.

[ 09-13-2001: Message edited by: Sojourner ]

[Word]

The hatered between Jewish and Palestinian people is so great that you rally the support of the Islamic community with statments like that. If the MIddle East wants to believe it they can. Afghanistan is just trying to gain allies when it seems the whole world is against them. I also see those qoutes as total BS.

[Darkpoet]

Originally posted by Word:
<STRONG>The hatered between Jewish and Palestinian people is so great that you rally the support of the Islamic community with statments like that. If the MIddle East wants to believe it they can. Afghanistan is just trying to gain allies when it seems the whole world is against them. I also see those qoutes as total BS.</STRONG>

But, they will have support from Iraq, maybe Iran. Might have to watch out for the Libians too.

[Aegis]

I honestly don't think that anything should be dismissed right away. It could be anyone from the Middle East, Europe, The Orieant, South America, or even North America. For all we know, this could be an American conspiracy conjured up by the US Government. It is plausible, for all those about to condemn me for this, but since Bush was elected prez. he has almost been pushing for a war, so it's not completly out of whack to think that. All I'm saying is that it could be almost anyone, and right now, half the world is trying to point the finger at someone, and they're thinking to irrationally about.

[Darkpoet]

Those Canadians are really sneaky too.

[Quark]

Afghanistan is in an ugly position.

Iran has condemned this terrorist attack. That means even Iran is scared right now. They closed the border to Afghanistan.

Pakistan is seriously debating which side to pick - normally they would side with the Afghans, but the messages sent to them by America are making them truly consider helping us out (or at least not getting in the way a fraction of a bit).

I don't think Afghanistan can find an ally if they don't hand over bin Laden. The Taliban must realize that there are consequences for an act like this - and not some stupid 'must be an Islamic trial where we can give bin Laden a slap on the wrist'. I think all the Taliban are doing right now are trying to rally up public support. If the public turns on the Taliban then they're in really big trouble. If the public supports them, just remember - Afghanistan was the Vietnam for Russia. They probably still have tons of Stinger missles supplied by the US too.

[Word]

@Aegis I can't see the "American Conspiracy" theory. I'm sorry no one in our goverment is that corrupt to where they would kill thousands of our own to gain a war or any other of their goals. Also we are Israel's strongest backers if they would do something like that conspiracy thing they would do something that wouldn't weaken our economy so much.

[Tamerlane]

While all sources point to OSB, has any one even considered the anarchists that litter the globe. Remember the Seattle and Genoa? incidents suurounding the WTO. With anarchists being found all over the globe, I'm honestly suprised that they haven't even been considered. They are well organised and may even have contacts with major terrorist organisations.

[Aegis]

Originally posted by Word:
<STRONG>@Aegis I can't see the "American Conspiracy" theory. I'm sorry no one in our goverment is that corrupt to where they would kill thousands of our own to gain a war or any other of their goals. Also we are Israel's strongest backers if they would do something like that conspiracy thing they would do something that wouldn't weaken our economy so much.</STRONG>

I'm not saying that is what happend, what I am saying is that you shouldn't rule it out. Governments in the past have done things like that just to cause war and conflict. For instance, back in WW2, there is a conspiracy that says Winston Churchhill knew about the German U-boat that was about to sink the Lucetania, and American charter. He didn't warn the States, because it would bring them into the war. It's a slightly diffeent case, yes, but still, it does show what some countries would do gain support, or even start war.

[Word]

@AegisYes but Churchill saw how the US winning the joining the war would give the Allies the upper hand. There was no war here this is a battle that is completly undefined. Americans weren't worried about terrorist until this attack happened we all asumed that only happens in the middle east. Aegis I also realize you were just using an example and I was trying to show why such theories have to many holes to be worthwhile.