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11-29-2004, 01:10 PM
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| | | Vacation vs Holiday
Vacation - In the USA it means to take time out from work, or school, or the everyday life to get away from the house..go camping..go to a resort, etc..and it either deals with saving up days at work to use..or a taking time from a holiday to go on vacation.
Holiday (USA) - In the USA it is specific to certain days out of every year. Christmas is a holiday, Thanksgiving is a holiday, Halloween is a holiday, Easter is a holiday, etc.
Holiday (non-USA) - Outside of the USA the word Holiday seems to mean the same as Vacation.."We are going on holiday"..now to me that is just stupid-sounding. "We are going on Vacation DURING the holiday" sounds better. Vacation is an action..Holiday is a specific time. A time can't be an action!
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11-29-2004, 01:29 PM
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| | You find this with many words 
Some of the more amusing examples are found in British colloquial speech. For example "bugger," is a somewhat derogatory term and usually implies "idiot." The term does not have quite the same connotations that it does over in North America ! 
Or the word "mate." In Britain this means roughly the same as "buddy." A guy (or woman) will often say something like: "My mates and I went down to the pub last night..." 
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11-29-2004, 01:53 PM
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| | | Or the word "mate." In Britain this means roughly the same as "buddy." A guy (or woman) will often say something like: "My mates and I went down to the pub last night..."
What do you think of when you hear mate?
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11-29-2004, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by arno_v Or the word "mate." In Britain this means roughly the same as "buddy." A guy (or woman) will often say something like: "My mates and I went down to the pub last night..."
What do you think of when you hear mate? | Someone you mate with?
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11-29-2004, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by arno_v What do you think of when you hear mate? | Steve Irwing staring into the mouth of a crocodile saying: Whoooa, she's a BEAUTY, ain't she mate?
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11-29-2004, 03:14 PM
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| | I am actually *going* on holiday this Christmas rather than *taking* holiday, since I am leaving the country and detaching myself from the usual work and home life. I accept that Christmas is a *holiday period* since people take (and/or are given) time from work to spend with their families. But I "go on holiday", and not vacation, and "take holiday" if it is a break from work spent at home. So the difference in word association can be actually more subtle than just the words "holiday" and "vacation"
A "mate" is an acquaintance who is quite often more than casual, and can be male or female irregardless as to whether you are male or female, yet is not *always* a positive address (is buddy?) It is more often a familiarity. As well as being an affectionate term, "mate" can also be used selectively and sarcastically to emphasise the opposite position. For the most part, "mate" can be read to be a polite and informal recognition of either sex, a term more commonly used in England between men!
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11-29-2004, 03:19 PM
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| | | Holiday basically means a holy day, like christmas for example. So if you "take" a holiday, then it might be interprited that you say can decide which days can be holy, which can be seen as blasphemous. I don't know, personally I don't mind, but others might.
I prefer the terms parantis posted.
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11-29-2004, 03:26 PM
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| | | The word Holiday comes from Holy Day so I like the American usage better, but the other usage doesn't really irritate me. Many people in the US use mate to mean someone they sleep with regularly.. Buddy can also have a negative connotation such as "You gotta problem with that, buddy?" Irregardless is not a word in any language.
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11-29-2004, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Asriel Holiday basically means a holy day, like christmas for example. So if you "take" a holiday, then it might be interprited that you say can decide which days can be holy, which can be seen as blasphemous. I don't know, personally I don't mind, but others might.
I prefer the terms parantis posted. |
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11-29-2004, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jopperm2 Irregardless is not a word in any language. | ??
Definition
irregardless
adverb US NOT STANDARD
despite; not being affected by something:
I don't think children should be hit, irregardless of what they've done wrong.
(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
Definition
irregardless
adverb NOT STANDARD
without attention to, or despite the conditions or situation; regardless
Irregardless of whether he gives me a raise, I'm quitting at the end of this week.
(from Cambridge Dictionary of American English)
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11-29-2004, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jopperm2 Buddy can also have a negative connotation such as "You gotta problem with that, buddy?" Irregardless is not a word in any language. | Some people would also argue that with regard to "irregardless."
see here for an explantion http://www.bartleby.com/64/C003/0184.html
Back to topic, this thread reminds me of an incident that occurred during my last year of highschool.. I was with my mother in the pharmacy stocking up on stationary supplies... My mother learnt her English in Britain, and was slow to catch onto North American slang..
Anyway, I grew bored of looking at packets of paper and drifted over to another aisle.. All of a sudden my mother, in her most strident voice, yells over to me, calling me by name, "Do you need any rubbers?"
A "rubber," as far as my mother knew was an eraser, or perhaps a pair of boots.
Naturally, everybody in the store looked over in my direction.. Since I was only 17, I was quite mortified. 
To make matters even worse, a couple of guys from my school were in earshot.
The following week at school was an "interesting," one... 
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11-29-2004, 03:40 PM
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| | | When did they add that??
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11-29-2004, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dragon wench | As I posted It is a perfectly "legal" word to me, as is irrespectively 
LMAO! I know where you are coming from re the rubbers
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11-29-2004, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jopperm2 When did they add that?? | LMAO! I have absolutely no idea!! I do not study the dictionary, I just go with the flow of what I have accepted as standard in English vocabulary, and subsequently foster any faults. I am no English major, but I try not to make too many words up, it kind of confuses any message I might be trying to get across
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11-29-2004, 03:45 PM
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| | lol! sorry Ysh, I was reading quickly, since I am working, and occasionally sneaking in
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