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Old 11-09-2009, 09:16 AM
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It's true! You always knew it was. Here are the plans. Here's a bit of detail, in advance, to whet your taste for horror:

First, we send a joint Army-Navy overseas force to capture the port city of Halifax, cutting the Canadians off from their British allies. Then we seize Canadian power plants near Niagara Falls, so they freeze in the dark. Then the U.S. Army invades on three fronts -- marching from Vermont to take Montreal and Quebec, charging out of North Dakota to grab the railroad center at Winnipeg, and storming out of the Midwest to capture the strategic nickel mines of Ontario.

Yes, it was part of an hypothesized war with the UK--which, if the Brits won, would undoubtedly allow them to demand Alaska.

Personally, I'm not sure why they wouldn't demand we keep Alaska if they won a war against us. It's not exactly doing much for the US now, since it's a net drain on federal funds, rather like Texas in that respect. In fact, if Alaska and Texas wanted to declare themselves a separate country, I would think the tourist trade would be rather brisk. And given the people who would then be in charge of that nation's government, the US would probably see a tremendous number of immigrants. That could prove a problem in Texas, but in Alaska's case, it would be a problem Canada would have to solve. All those Alaskans would be moving into the Great White North.

So much for my musings. Now, for yours.
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:29 AM
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I saw a documentary about this once. They kept blaming Canada.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:20 AM
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Your link seemed to point to an article about nukes in Pakistan. Granted I did not read all of it, but a quick skimming did not show any digression into invasions of Canada.

Frankly as a Canadian I am not too concerned, I have spoken to enough Americans in my job to know that only a minority of them has even a small chance of finding us on a map...of Canada

More to the point, the US is already first in line as a market for our natural resources to the point our exporters refuse to even think about finding other markets. Invasion in these days is rather pointless. Thankfully enough, manifest destiny seemed to have faded into the background after WWII.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:29 AM
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Well, we've got our own plans in the works. Apparently we've tried before, but no one noticed.

On a less joking note, American plans to invade Canada date back to the beginning of the 20th century, since the American military command made contingency plans for everything. I can't remember the exact codename, but each region of interest had a specific colour-coded plan name. I took the class a while ago, my memory is failing me. It was, as fable said, originally designed in the case that a new war with Britain started, as Canada would be a staging ground in such a war.

We did, after all, burn down the White House in 1812. Don't think we can't do it again.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:40 AM
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Your link seemed to point to an article about nukes in Pakistan. Granted I did not read all of it, but a quick skimming did not show any digression into invasions of Canada.
Try now. I'm not sure what happened before, because I'd never even looked at that article on Pakistan, but the current link is correct.

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Frankly as a Canadian I am not too concerned, I have spoken to enough Americans in my job to know that only a minority of them has even a small chance of finding us on a map...of Canada
You dare to taunt us? We will wave our privates in your aunties' faces!

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More to the point, the US is already first in line as a market for our natural resources to the point our exporters refuse to even think about finding other markets. Invasion in these days is rather pointless. Thankfully enough, manifest destiny seemed to have faded into the background after WWII.
Maybe for you. Would you be interested in a nice shipment of red hot neo-cons? Could keep your northern provinces warm during those long cold winter months just through their belligerent rhetoric.
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Try now. I'm not sure what happened before, because I'd never even looked at that article on Pakistan, but the current link is correct.
Thanks, I'll have a look at it now.

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You dare to taunt us? We will wave our privates in your aunties' faces!
New weapons program there Fable? Sounds more like a weapon of mass distraction than destruction[/QUOTE]

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Maybe for you. Would you be interested in a nice shipment of red hot neo-cons? Could keep your northern provinces warm during those long cold winter months just through their belligerent rhetoric.
We have enough hot air thank you very much, all you got to do to see that is watch about 5 minutes of question period in our house of Commons. Honestly If could just find a way to harness that power all of the world would be off fossil fuels forever
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:57 AM
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LOL! One word to keep the US out of Canada: Quebec! Actually, they're keeping Canada out of Canada...
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:05 PM
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If anything, it will be a very pretty war. Canada is beautiful. It will also be incredibly disappointing, because I was planning on moving there after America fell.

If Alaska were to secede, then the seceding government would most likely be overthrown by the natives (both of the american indian and the american variety). Then over the years I suspect it would grow into an incredibly unique and modern frontier culture the likes of which we've never seen. I can imagine it being called on of the nicest places to live, despite the weather, right up there with Iceland and Norway.

Now, if Texas seceded like the current governor wants, I suggest we invade and liberate the people from their tyrannical dictators (Rick Perry et al who formed the secession in the first place... it will be poetic justice). Then we work to build up the country, provide aid, and work towards modernization through such things as building schools. If this works, we could gradually secede all the southern and most of the midwestern states and do this same reconstruction, then after a time bring them back into the union. It would really help to eliminate some of these wackos and remove government bureaucracy. The only thing is we would need a president with the guts and power to pull it off.
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