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[Lestat]

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Originally Posted by Fiona I go on boating holidays and I can't swim. QED

Not sufficient... quite a few African fishermen don't know how to swim... you need to have a completely invalid reason to go alone on the water where noone can save you, without a lifejacket.

Sorry Fiona, you're just not stupid enough...

[Fiona]

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Originally Posted by Chimaera182 Frankly, I don't find that sad so much as sheer stupidity. You do not go out in the middle of a body of water if you cannot swim; that's just dumb. That's natural selection at work.

@ Lestat: Note the bit in bold.

@ Chim. An inflatable raft is not a raft in the sense you imply. More of a decoy duck

[Chimaera182]

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Originally Posted by Fiona @ Chim. An inflatable raft is not a raft in the sense you imply. More of a decoy duck

I have absolutely no idea what that meant.

[Fiona]

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Originally Posted by Chimaera182 I have absolutely no idea what that meant.

Sorry. The term "decoy" in "decoy duck" looks like a description or qualifier in the way that "tufted" would be in "tufted duck" But it isn't. It is in fact a word which serves to show it is not a duck at all. "inflatable" in "inflatable raft" is more like decoy than it is like tufted. Does that help?

[Chimaera182]

No...

[Fiona]

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Originally Posted by Chimaera182 No...

Hmmm. I am not sure what the problem is here. Perhaps it is in my use of ducks?
Does it make any difference if I use another example? At the risk of being perverted by those around me, how about "inflatable" in "inflatable woman"? Can you see that the adjective tells you this is not a woman at all; unlike say "blonde" in "blonde woman"? They both seem to be descriptive words and in a sense they are; but of very different force and effect?

An inflatable raft is not a bunch of trees lashed together and going out on one is not as silly as going out on a real raft would be. That is all I am trying to say

[Ravager]

A traditional raft is one with logs lashed together...a modern inflatable raft barely resembles or represents the thing. It's saner to go out on an inflatable raft than a traditional one.

[Lestat]

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Originally Posted by Ravager It's saner to go out on an inflatable raft than a traditional one.

Unless you're a hedgehog or a porcupine.

[Ravager]

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Originally Posted by Lestat Unless you're a hedgehog or a porcupine.

Generally, though.

[Chimaera182]

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Originally Posted by Fiona Hmmm. I am not sure what the problem is here. Perhaps it is in my use of ducks? Does it make any difference if I use another example? At the risk of being perverted by those around me, how about "inflatable" in "inflatable woman"? Can you see that the adjective tells you this is not a woman at all; unlike say "blonde" in "blonde woman"? They both seem to be descriptive words and in a sense they are; but of very different force and effect? An inflatable raft is not a bunch of trees lashed together and going out on one is not as silly as going out on a real raft would be. That is all I am trying to say

Ugh. Okay, I think I see what you mean (I've come down from my partially-inebriated state, which was obviously doing a good deal to hamper my cognitive reasoning skills). I almost added a substantial else to that "No..." thread about some kind of language barrier, and now I think I should have because it seems that I was on the right track then. When I think of rafts, I don't think of the wooden kind but the inflatable kind. Just adding "inflatable" to it doesn't actually alter it in my mind, I guess. I've been on a "raft" before, and it was inflatable, and I suppose that--and my American upbringing (this meaning I don't see rafts as hand-crafted models out of wood and other bits of nautre but of industrial design)--colored my intake of your statement. When I saw that this man from Miami (just an unnecessary sidenote, but that's like almost two hours' drive from where I live) had drowned due to an incident with his raft, I saw that in Phreddie's comment that said raft had been punctured by another toy boat, and sank, and in my mind that set the precedent that a raft--in any way, shape or form--had to be inflatable. My fault in assuming.

Might I also add that, at this point, I have absolutely no idea what preceded what I just quoted or anything I just said in reply. :-S

[ch85us2001]

Lioness in zoo kills man who invoked God

KIEV (Reuters) - A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lioness in Kiev zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure, a zoo official said on Monday.

"The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.

"A lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery."

The incident, Sunday evening when the zoo was packed with visitors, was the first of its kind at the attraction. Lions and tigers are kept in an "animal island" protected by thick concrete blocks.





http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060605/...RpBHNlYwM3NTc-

[Lestat]

Another candidate for the Darwin Award...

[ch85us2001]

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Originally Posted by Lestat Another candidate for the Darwin Award...

Nope.

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Not Darwins The following have been specifically stated as being no longer eligible for a Darwin Award, as they are too common: Smoking in an oxygen tent Being hit by a train or automobile Climbing into zoo cages

[Luis Antonio]

Such is the destiny of the fanatic. Oh well, back to cleaning I guesses. The zoo workers will have more work from now on, because those lions have already tasted human blood.

[Vicsun]

I have to stop following the news or something the media is depressing me.

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Ex-nurse admits abusing dying girl A former Children's Hospital nurse admitted to police that he sexually abused a terminally ill 4-year-old female patient “to see if he liked it,” according to court documents released yesterday. Christopher Alan Irvin told police when they arrested him and searched his City Heights apartment in April that he molested the semi-comatose girl twice while she was under his care at the hospital, according to the documents. After initially denying he ever touched patients at Children's Hospital in a sexual manner, Irvin told police he abused the dying child behind closed curtains in the intermediate care unit where he worked, according to a search warrant released by Superior Court Judge Frederick Maguire. Maguire released another warrant Monday in which police reported finding a video clip on Irvin's home computer depicting a young girl performing a sex act on an adult man. In the search warrant released yesterday, police said Irvin gave a detailed account of what he did to his patient at Children's Hospital. Police also reported finding journals in which Irvin wrote of his urge to be with young children. “This is killing me. The girl downstairs is playing and I want to go play with her, ahhh !!!,” Irvin wrote in one journal entry, police said in the warrant. In another entry, Irvin wrote that he wanted “to lay down at night” with a little girl and that he wanted to be with her as she grew. “Oh God, I've strayed,” Irvin wrote in a third entry cited in the search warrant. Police in the warrant released yesterday said they found videos and images of child pornography in files Irvin shared online with others who were sexually drawn to children. In addition to computers and documents dealing with child pornography and with organizations that deal with children, police seized six computers from Children's Hospital, Irvin's personnel file and patient records. Irvin, 32, is charged with sexually abusing the Children's Hospital patient and multiple counts of trafficking in child pornography. He is being held in jail in lieu of $2 million bail. He has pleaded not guilty. A police detective testified in court Monday that the investigation into Irvin's actions has spread to Florida, where Irvin worked before coming to San Diego in October 2004. Detective Susan Righthouse said investigators want to interview six children in Tallahassee to see if Irvin had any involvement with them. Irvin told police that the first time he molested the girl at Children's Hospital “that he was curious and a little excited at the same time,” according to the documents. He said he molested the child a second time because “he wasn't sure what he was feeling and he wasn't sure if he was interested in children,” police detectives reported in the warrant. Irvin told police that “he didn't get sexually aroused, so he decided he was not interested in children” but he admitted that he continued looking at pictures of children. Prosecutor Laura Gunn had objected to the release of the warrants, saying it would hamper the ongoing investigation of Irvin's actions, make it difficult to find an unbiased jury and invade the privacy of the parents of the child Irvin is accused of molesting. Defense attorney Dawnella Gilzean also objected, saying that Irvin would be at greater risk of attack from other jail inmates if what he told police became public. The secrecy was challenged by Guylyn Cummins, a lawyer for The San Diego Union-Tribune and KGTV Channel 10. Cummins said the public's right to know what is going on in the court system outweighs the other concerns. The judge said all of the information would become public eventually, and that there is a sufficient jury pool in the county to ensure a fair trial. Irvin is the second Children's Hospital worker facing child molestation charges, although authorities said the two cases are unrelated. Former respiratory therapist Wayne Albert Bleyle, 54, of Santee is charged with sexually abusing five patients and faces multiple charges of posing or modeling children to create child pornography and distributing or offering to distribute child pornography.