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Old 01-13-2003, 11:50 AM
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As you might not have guessed, this is a Alice in Wonderland thread, open for all discussion regarding the story, spam is, as in all of my threads, welcome as well.

AiW is one of my personal favorite stories, the surrealistic and sheer weirdness really strikes me as a memorable thing.
The complete lagic of logic must´ve puzzled a lot of people in it´s time (and probably still does), but I found that I mentally almost "grew" by thinking closer about it.

What do you in particluar enjoy/dislike about the story, and what do you think of it in general?

Curioser, curioser...
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Old 01-13-2003, 11:58 AM
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Well its been a LONG time since Ive seen or read the story.

But Ill tell you what I really did like. The imagination put forth in the story. Because thats really what makes it run. Things are very unique and well thought out, IIRC. And the characters in AiW became instant classics, and have remained so. Everyone knows about the characters, and AiW has become more then just a story. Its become sort of an epic.

Its even spread beyond the movie and the story. Things like childrens shows have been modelled after it, and even going beyond that, Batman, the Cartoon series, had a villian named "The Mad Hatter" which allowed AiW to live in a completely different animated series. And even Tom Petty had a classic video that modelled after AiW, "Dont Come Around Here No More". So you can plainly see that the story has expanded and changed some thought. Thats good aswell.

Heh.
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Old 01-13-2003, 08:54 PM
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Old 01-14-2003, 07:38 AM
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Old 01-14-2003, 09:08 AM
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Jeez, only one member who likes the story?

@Ty; Yeah, I remember the mad hatter from the Batman series, that was a cool thing to pull, putting him into a modern children's cartoon.
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Old 01-14-2003, 06:30 PM
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Jeez, only one member who likes the story?

@Ty; Yeah, I remember the mad hatter from the Batman series, that was a cool thing to pull, putting him into a modern children's cartoon.
I liked the story, Jae, but its been a while. Seems to me some think it represents something else...

I think that Batman: the Animated Series was overwhelmingly cool, especialy compared to the rest of the animated crap of the day and those since. I liked the modern tech. meets art deco look it had.
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Old 01-14-2003, 09:04 PM
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"Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" are wonderful stories, but I must say I was an adult before I was able to truly appreciated them . When I was a child it was just too surreal, but the more often I have read them, and I occasionally still do, the more the subtler nuances of the story come through. As an adult they have become two of my favorite tales of whimsy. They are timeless works that I truly feel I will never out grow.

BTW, the Walrus and oysters were among my favorite characters.
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Old 01-15-2003, 03:07 PM
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What's the name of that story where the kids entered some surreal world through a wardrobe door?
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Old 01-15-2003, 03:15 PM
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You mean the Narnia story? I don´t recall the exact english title, but it was something along the lines of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe...

They´re excellent too, but they haven´t got the same wacky edge as AiW...
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You mean the Narnia story? I don´t recall the exact english title, but it was something along the lines of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe...
That's it exactly...

Of course they aren't wacky, they're a Bible retelling, in a classical style.
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Old 01-15-2003, 03:23 PM
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They were fantastic stories though, don't you agree? I enjoyed reading them.

C.S. Lewis was a fantastic author, in my opinion. Had a real style for re-telling a story.
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Old 01-15-2003, 03:30 PM
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They were fantastic stories though, don't you agree? I enjoyed reading them.

C.S. Lewis was a fantastic author, in my opinion. Had a real style for re-telling a story.
Oh yeah, I love most of his work. That Hideous Strength was a hard read, though - I think you have to be quite knowledgeable about theology to make anything of it. It was about 5 years ago when I read it, though...
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Old 01-15-2003, 03:35 PM
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Well, considering you've been boning up on classics I'd expect you to be able to understand more theological aspects of literature. I've never read that though, recommend it? Good Fantasy?
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Old 01-15-2003, 03:47 PM
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Well, considering you've been boning up on classics I'd expect you to be able to understand more theological aspects of literature. I've never read that though, recommend it? Good Fantasy?
What a lovely turn of phrase. Gets me every time I hear it

That Hideous Strength is the last in a trilogy called...argh...something or other. The first two books are Out Of The Silent Planet and Perelandra (or Voyage To Venus as an alternate title). OOTSP is the most accessible, about a man who is kidnapped and taken on a voyage to Mars by some very strange people, and then lots of weird stuff happens. It's been a long time, OK? In Perelandra, the same guy goes to Venus where some more weird stuff happens. In That Hideous Strength, I never worked out what was going on, but at least it takes place on Earth.

So that paragraph made no sense. I'm going to reread the books, I think, and I do recommend them, but not as light reading It's well-written as always from C.S. Lewis, and if you like your fantasy theological then it's just the thing for you.

Oh - another recommendation is the Screwtape Letters - they're a great read - basically an induction course from a veteran servant of Satan to a novice. Excellent.
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Old 01-15-2003, 04:16 PM
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I failed my first quiz on that damn Narnia series. Go to hell you stupid wardrobe and take the lion and the witch with you!

That 25 I got forever stains that damn series.
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