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04-21-2002, 03:13 PM
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| | | The New Catalogue of Cliche
Right...here is a space for all you literati, tired and bitter at the butchering of your beloved English language by the hands of the filthy proles...It is a space for professional and technical jargon, cliches and meaningless words, drained of life...
please get angry...what really makes you wish you were the wielder of a fabled Word-A-Day Calendar of Infinite Adjectives +4? or Resonant Katana of Correctly Used Grammar+3?
so to start us off, why can a 'lunatic' not be anything but 'raving'?
I bet you've never heard a lunatic described as docile, nor any other term apart from that appaling malediction 'raving'...
and from that, why is it impossible to 'rave' without having 'ranted' before hand? Why is the publics imagination so saturated with cliche that it cannot even imagine someone, ranting, and just ranting, without forcing that person to be 'ranting and raving'?
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04-21-2002, 03:26 PM
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and from that, why is it impossible to 'rave' without having 'ranted' before hand? Why is the publics imagination so saturated with cliche that it cannot even imagine someone, ranting, and just ranting, without forcing that person to be 'ranting and raving'?
| speaking of ranting and raving...  
also, why can't a mad person rave without being 'stark'? hence, 'stark raving mad'. i have never heard the term used elsewhere.
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04-21-2002, 05:28 PM
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| | Sadly, all of my cliches would be forum violations, thus cannot speak them. |
04-21-2002, 11:55 PM
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| | | It has to get worse, before it gets better.. why must it get worse?
All's well that ends well ......really?
An ax to grind ....why not a hoe or shovel?
Bald faced liar.....what is bald face?
Boys will be boys .... well lets hope so.
Thats just a few cliches that irk me.:-)
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04-22-2002, 12:00 AM
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| | | Only "bald-faced liar" is a cliche in that group. The rest are sayings. Think of sayings as being "folk wisdom." Cliches, however, are common coinage that's been debased.
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04-22-2002, 01:54 AM
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| | How about "Wise old men" for a clichè ?
There's a lot of dumb old farts out there....(and with old I mean OLD - not temporarily advanced like fable for example. I'm talking about those guys who are making life tough for anyone below the age of 80...)
No worries,
Beldin 
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04-22-2002, 02:33 AM
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| | | Cliche: "we don't make the news, we just report it"
And: "We don't mould public opinion, we inform it"
When will the media stop believing its own propaganda and just pup its hands up and say "yes, we are merely another tool of mass population control, we admit it". |
04-22-2002, 05:01 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by fable
Only "bald-faced liar" is a cliche in that group. The rest are sayings. Think of sayings as being "folk wisdom." Cliches, however, are common coinage that's been debased. | Alright then, baldy, give us some examples.  |
04-22-2002, 05:11 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Gruntboy
Cliche: "we don't make the news, we just report it"
And: "We don't mould public opinion, we inform it"
When will the media stop believing its own propaganda and just pup its hands up and say "yes, we are merely another tool of mass population control, we admit it". | Couldn't agree more, nice choice Grunt 
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04-22-2002, 05:11 AM
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| | | "Head over heals in love"- most people I know are already like that.
"Drunk like a skunk"- Who's ever seen a drunk skunk?
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04-22-2002, 05:18 AM
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04-22-2002, 08:51 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Aegis
Alright then, baldy, give us some examples. | Baldy? I'll have you know I have quite a bit of hair left. And I'm saving what falls out over time to blow in your face after I die. 
I'm looking forward to noumenal existence. No haircuts, no toothbrushes.
Cliches? Let's see. "Moneyback guaranteed." I've seen that advertised in stores that will only provide credit towards a next purchase. It's become a merchandising technique that no longer has any content. "It isn't the temperature, it's the humidity." This isn't a saying. It's a phrase used by a secret society of gray mediocrities who exchange non-information in an attempt to find one another. Then there are cliches in art reviews: "ZZZ has embedded complex questions in their work, forming a paradigm of humanity in our deconstructionist times." Ugh. 
And movie cliches...! The hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold. The hardnosed, rich sophisticate just waiting to be saved by love. The white, uptight American suburban family that goes to pieces when exposed to a gay couple. The thinking computers out to rule humankind. The lone nobody with a great ancestry who rises to challenge Enormous Evil successfully. Cliches, one and all.
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04-22-2002, 08:58 AM
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| | | The wize old mentor/moderator? Just a question.
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04-22-2002, 09:01 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Jace
The wize old mentor/moderator? Just a question. | No, that's an oxymoron. Like "generous banker," "honest politician," and "intelligent newbie." 
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04-22-2002, 09:12 AM
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| | | Point conceded. But which are the opposites - Wize and Old or Wize and Moderator?
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