The Arcane Library of Spam

[ch85us2001]

I have nothing against the thread, but it kindof defeats the purpose of a "forum" if you ask people not to post, right?

[C Elegans]

I think this thread is definitely beyond rescue now, but if needed I can remove my post later.

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Originally Posted by Ravager To be honest, I think it's a good idea too, though I don't truly understand what he is trying to acheive.

Personally, I don't read many spam threads and I don't understand the point with any of them but I think the point is entertainment and I don't think there is a difference between Damuna's spam library and other spam threads here at SYM.

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On the other side of the coin, why shouldn't old members be allowed to contribute? They could provide valuable insights to the topics Damuna digs up.

I am not sure what is so valuable with being an old member.

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Down that road lies flaming/trolling... Not to mention law and rule infringements. In moderation it's fine, though one thing easily leads to another...

Sure, but we have not seen this flaming or trolling yet. Let's assume just to prove a point, that Damuna is an old, previously banned user who returns just in order to flame, troll and create conflicts. Fine, but we have not seen this yet. There are forum rules and moderators to take care of possible problems. There is absolutely no reason to limit any user, new or old, before we have seen evidence of violation of forum rules. Regardless of what people think of Damuna specifically and this thread specifically, I think the comments in this thread gives the impression of a really bad attitude towards new members in general.

[ch85us2001]

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Originally Posted by C Elegans Sure, but we have not seen this flaming or trolling yet. Let's assume just to prove a point, that Damuna is an old, previously banned user who returns just in order to flame, troll and create conflicts. Fine, but we have not seen this yet. There are forum rules and moderators to take care of possible problems. There is absolutely no reason to limit any user, new or old, before we have seen evidence of violation of forum rules. Regardless of what people think of Damuna specifically and this thread specifically, I think the comments in this thread gives the impression of a really bad attitude towards new members in general.

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#6 - Registering and using multiple accounts is not allowed. If we determine that you have more than one account (by matching IPs, etc), all accounts will lose their posting privileges.

However, due to the fact that Damuna_Novas join date is in october of Last year, I doubt that this is a previous user, because it would take alot of foresight to do something like that.


EDIT- I think I misunderstood your post, CE. I'm sorry.

[Ravager]

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Originally Posted by C Elegans I think this thread is definitely beyond rescue now, but if needed I can remove my post later.

*shrugs* Remove mine too, if needed. I'm not really trying to hinder Damuna's efforts.

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Originally Posted by C Elegans I am not sure what is so valuable with being an old member.

My point is that there will be an obviously differing views between someone who views a post from 3 years ago who wasn't around at the time and a person who was there and perhaps contributed or even remembers that conversation. They could then bring up nuances that are not so easily seen.

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Originally Posted by C Elegans Regardless of what people think of Damuna specifically and this thread specifically, I think the comments in this thread gives the impression of a really bad attitude towards new members in general.

With respect many members have tried very hard to welcome new members and seeing as you say yourself that you don't read many spam threads you may easily miss details integral to a poster's character online. Thus, you may not really understand the cause of our behaviour and simply misinterpret it.

[Luis Antonio]

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Originally Posted by Ravager *shrugs* Remove mine too, if needed. I'm not really trying to hinder Damuna's efforts.

And all of mine too.

[C Elegans]

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Originally Posted by Ravager My point is that there will be an obviously differing views between someone who views a post from 3 years ago who wasn't around at the time and a person who was there and perhaps contributed or even remembers that conversation. They could then bring up nuances that are not so easily seen.

Yes, isn't the new persons different views on things that constitute the dynamics of SYM as well as any human groups? Besides, very little has ever been posted at SYM that requires some kind of factual background. Most of it is just spam that people wrote for fun. It's not exactly an hermeneutic bible interpretation we are talking about here.

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With respect many members have tried very hard to welcome new members and seeing as you say yourself that you don't read many spam threads you may easily miss details integral to a poster's character online. Thus, you may not really understand the cause of our behaviour and simply misinterpret it.

That's the reason I wrote "I think the comments in this thread gives the impression of a really bad attitude towards new members in general. Whatever has occurred between Damuna and other users in other spam threads, is no excuse to post sarcasms and invectives. If a new user reads this thread without it is certainly not for sure that this person has read the previous spam either. If there are reasons for suspicion towards a member, or if another member has behaved badly towards you, it is a moderator issue and it should be reported to moderators. It is not a reason for sarcasm and flaming.

[Ravager]

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Originally Posted by C Elegans Yes, isn't the new persons different views on things that constitute the dynamics of SYM as well as any human groups? Besides, very little has ever been posted at SYM that requires some kind of factual background. Most of it is just spam that people wrote for fun. It's not exactly an hermeneutic bible interpretation we are talking about here.

Oh, I'm not saying it's essential or even neccesary, just that it might be a bonus. In a similar way to the different views posted on 'serious' topics expressing different viewpoints (even if it is less factual in this case).

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Originally Posted by C Elegans That's the reason I wrote "I think the comments in this thread gives the impression of a really bad attitude towards new members in general. Whatever has occurred between Damuna and other users in other spam threads, is no excuse to post sarcasms and invectives. If a new user reads this thread without it is certainly not for sure that this person has read the previous spam either. If there are reasons for suspicion towards a member, or if another member has behaved badly towards you, it is a moderator issue and it should be reported to moderators. It is not a reason for sarcasm and flaming.

*nods* Fair point (I shouldn't have missed that important sentence either ). That's why I always do my best to give a friendly welcome to any new people and I'd hope other people would back me up on that. And I never advocated flaming, nor would I. I'm just playing devil's advocate within reason here. As for sarcasm, that can be delivered in different ways depending on interpretation, it doesn't have to be cruel or vindictive.
Any new users who read this thread will work around to their own interpretations, much as they always have. They will decide for themselves whether this is a good or bad idea or simply wonder what the fuss is about. Of course, that view can be swayed by what that user reads and I don't want to portray a negative view of GB, but that is how it is.

[Damuna_Nova]

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Originally Posted by Ravager That's why I always do my best to give a friendly welcome to any new people and I'd hope other people would back me up on that.

*Points* This guy is my SYM idol.

If people will stop criticising I may want to actually get this thread going.

I would ask that you hold off on deleting any posts yet, as they are also a part of SYM history.

You may continue to post here until I decide that I've got enough to start, but after that I would ask that you please not post. As for Rav's idea of linking at the start, I was thinking of using the more conventional contents page, with links to each part in the titles of chapters/sections.

[Xandax]

Firstly:

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Originally Posted by Damuna_Nova <snip> Why can't you respect that I don't want replies from others so it's easy to navigate? <snip>

There is no need to post an non-official thread in which you "don't want replies from others".....


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As for the other "threats", flames, insults and what not appearing in this thread....
Then either take it to the PMs or take it off the board. They have no place on GameBanshee.

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#1 - Flaming, humiliating, ridiculing, or belittling other members will not be tolerated. If you have an issue with another member, take it to private messages or email.

This thread is as closed as a thread can be.

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