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Old 08-19-2002, 01:19 PM
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You have to pay CNN to access their streaming video. If you aren't part of their premium content subscription service, you can't watch any video at their site.
Yes, when I tried to lead the video, I got no error but a message telling me that I needed to be a subscriber. Perhaps they will show the video or say something more on the news on TV, so I'll turn the TV on and wait.

It is not unlikely that the Al-Queda see a point in demostrating they have chemical weapons, I remember they insinuated that last year.
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:19 PM
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hmmm...that sucks.
Ok does anybody suscribe to CNN then?
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Well I arrived late for this thread, as usual. Well, I agree with Fas. These tapes are fakes. I truly beleive that the media will do anything for people to view them, for money, and for prestige. Media isnt honest anymore and I am always skeptical when I hear stories on the news. And often times, media perverts things to make their view stronger than the truth.
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:21 PM
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You have to pay CNN to access their streaming video. If you aren't part of their premium content subscription service, you can't watch any video at their site.
Thanks I choose to wait. I see no reason to pay for a News service I can get on the TV...unlike GB which I can't get on TV.
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:24 PM
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Since the tapes have been out for a couple of days, the other media outlets may have licensed their broadcast from CNN; you guys might try www.cbsnews.com or www.nbcnews.com which do not charge for you to view their streaming video.
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:27 PM
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The CNN site oulls lots of bandiwdth when you try to click on the video link. Perhaps it's because of the pop up windows.

Any way the idea of media fraud also make sense. Reporters are known for their scams to boost up the channel rating too

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Old 08-19-2002, 01:32 PM
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Try this link http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/videop...19/video519062
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:47 PM
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Hey thanks alot. I will check those soon.
Also for those in Europe, it is on Insight at 10:30 CET.
Which is in 45 min here.
9:30 BST.
Unless of course they changed it and moved it to 11 CET for the special.
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Thanks for the link HLD, sadly it is so blurred I cannot make heads or tails of it. The picture they showed of OBL though is IMO old.
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:57 PM
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Thanks a lot HLD
Like Weasel, I could not form an opinion based on this clip since it was very jerky and blurry. I agree with Weasel that the image of OBL looks old, perhaps a few years.

@CM: Thank you, I've turned on my TV and wait.
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:58 PM
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Actually CE it is 11:00 CET.
They changed the timing, that is according to teletext.
I am staying up to watch that.
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Old 08-19-2002, 02:05 PM
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What BBC has to say:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2203742.stm
It has 3 pics of the chemical experiment.

Another interesting article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1730164.stm

Another: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1759786.stm

I will post what the muslim newspapers have to say on this tomororw.
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Old 08-19-2002, 02:14 PM
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Actually CE it is 11:00 CET.
They changed the timing, that is according to teletext.
I am staying up to watch that.
I'll also watch that, in the meanwhile I check out what the links to BBC has to say.
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Old 08-19-2002, 02:15 PM
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I have read a couple of new stories on this from CNN, FOX News and CBS News and I don't think that authenticity of the tapes is in doubt; each outlet is reporting that "experts" (who ever they may be) have viewed the tapes and apparently there is no doubt as to their being made by Al-Qaeda at some point and their primary function appears to be as training videos for wide distribution through out their network.

What is in doubt is their usefulness to the intelligence community; they're apparently old, most appear to have been made before the 11 September attacks and the US-led offensive in Afghanistan. In addition, they don't show us anything about Al-Qaeda's capabilities we didn't know before.
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Old 08-19-2002, 02:26 PM
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Truth is the first casualty of war. Its quite easy for detractors to shout "fake".

Chemical weapons tests on dogs? These people have done worse (and killing dogs is bad enough).
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