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Old 01-13-2003, 12:10 PM
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Call Bush now and tell him you oppose the war! Every phonecall counts!

Or maybe he will just forget all about his war when we buy him a PS2! We have to know that we are making every effort possible.
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Old 01-13-2003, 12:24 PM
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Knowing bush he is an Xbox man.
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Old 01-13-2003, 01:54 PM
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Good point, though I'm not surprised if he thinks SONY is an American company...
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Old 01-13-2003, 02:57 PM
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Good point, though I'm not surprised if he thinks SONY is an American company...
Not to defend Bush... I consider him to be a moron of the first degree... an extremely dangerous moron....

However, I suppose it would be more exuseable for Bush to believe SONY an American company than it would any number of other Japanese corporations. The reason being that Sony has made an overt point of adopting a US (top down) approach in its factories, as opposed to the more collectivist procedures that have so often been characteristic of Japanese industry.
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Old 01-13-2003, 03:00 PM
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That, and Sony fufills the American dream quite nicely.
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Old 01-13-2003, 03:04 PM
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However, I suppose it would be more exuseable for Bush to believe SONY an American company than it would any number of other Japanese corporations. The reason being that Sony has made an overt point of adopting a US (top down) approach in its factories, as opposed to the more collectivist procedures that have so often been characteristic of Japanese industry.
Indeed, hence I picked Sony. Even I don't think he would mistake Nintendo as an American company.
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Old 01-13-2003, 03:29 PM
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Not to defend Bush... I consider him to be a moron of the first degree... an extremely dangerous moron, but...
I seem to be seeing beginnings of posts stating something very similar to the above quite often when Bush is being discussed. I think it's quite sad that when someone wants to point out that Bush isn't as ideotic as he seems (no-one can be ) (s)he has to make a disclamer saying that (s)he doesn't defend him in any way.

While I do believe that his foreign politics are very wrong (I know very little about his internal policies) I also believe that his stupidity has been largely exaggurated. While most of the things said about him are just for the fun of it, when it gets repeated too often people actually start believing that Bush is a total ideot and he isn't. At least not a total one
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Old 01-13-2003, 04:53 PM
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Bush is a moron. His appointees are running the show. Bush is merely the mouthpiece (and the obvious target for scorn).
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What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, ... to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security.
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Old 01-13-2003, 07:35 PM
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I'm generaly not one to start an arguemt, but why is it so clear that everyone should oppose a war in Iraq?

I live in Israel. I don't think a war in Iraq will solve anything.
But many people here feel, and IMO rightfully so, that one of Saddam's first acts were to have fully operational chemical or Nuclear weapons would be to launch an attack on Israel.
I don't know where anyone else is coming from, but here many people feel that their life is threatned and in danger by this crazy SOB through no fault of their own. So why is it so clear and cut to the world that a war is wrong?
Here, as in many other cases, lack of a solution to this issue will hurt one area first, then maybe the rest of the world.
Why should any country take a hit for the world?

Again, I don't think a war will solve this problem, but why is the opinion above never taken as a valid point of view?
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Old 01-13-2003, 08:43 PM
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live in Israel. I don't think a war in Iraq will solve anything.
But many people here feel, and IMO rightfully so, that one of Saddam's first acts were to have fully operational chemical or Nuclear weapons would be to launch an attack on Israel.
I think I heard it best put a few weeks back when a member of the Labor back-benchers was interviewed on the BBC. He said that if you have somebody with a heavy arsenal at their disposal, the last thing you want to do is push them into a corner and force them to use those weapons. To which I can only add, many countries have chemical, biological and/or nuclear weapons; Donald Rumsfeld himself, as he seldom reminds us, recommended to Ronald Reagan that the US help create and develop Iraq's biological weapons program in the early 1980s. And if it's added that most countries don't invade their neighbors, it should be remembered that Iraq didn't launch its attack on Kuwait until it had what sounded like approval from the then-US ambassador to Iraq for that invasion.

...And let me just add that it's refreshing to visit a thread where my distaste for Bush and his administration seems relatively mild compared to the opinions of others.
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Old 01-14-2003, 07:53 AM
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...And let me just add that it's refreshing to visit a thread where my distaste for Bush and his administration seems relatively mild compared to the opinions of others.
Don't get me started!
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Old 01-14-2003, 09:11 AM
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