Stripping in Norway!

Moonbiter · #1 (**permalink**) 12-08-2006, 08:21 AM

Okay, it isn't often that news from up here on The Reef gets attention on US television, but this YouTube - Norwegian Strippers Are Artists rather "important" news sure made the cut.

Malta Soron · #2 (**permalink**) 12-08-2006, 02:32 PM

Wouldn't stripping be rather cold in Norway?

Moonbiter · #3 (**permalink**) 12-08-2006, 03:02 PM

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Wouldn't stripping be rather cold in Norway?

Hirr Hirr! 20 years ago, yes. Right now we have pollen warnings and people are picking flowers and harvesting carrots and potatoes in December.

Anyway, a few corrections. It seems if something has entertainment value, you can change facts as much as you want, so here's the real deal, point by point:

1. The case has never been in the "supreme court." It has been appealed up to "high court" and won, but since it's the second victory, it's highly unlikely it will be granted a hearing in the Supreme Court.

2. It's not a question of paying taxes, and strip clubs are not involved. The verdict grants strippers the right to not pay VAT (for the lack of a better word/terminology) when performing.

3. In Norway/Ultima Thule/The Reef, artists are not subject to the same taxes as commercial businesses. They receive state funding, and they get to express themselves quite freely. This has been a matter of some debate lately, and I have a BIG problem with it, but this verdict is a good thing, IMHO.

VonDondu · #4 (**permalink**) 12-09-2006, 01:10 AM

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this verdict is a good thing, IMHO.

Of course it is.

Seriously, I don't think that the earnings of artists, dancers, musicians, and entertainers should be taxed. Please note that this is quite different from taxing the earnings of those who profit from others' creativity such as record companies, film producers, and establishments which host performances.

moltovir · #5 (**permalink**) 12-09-2006, 04:11 AM

@VonDondu: any musician, or just the "artistic" ones? Britney Spears is a musician too, and an extremely rich one at that. I know she doesn't write her own songs, but she's still the performer, so by your standards she shouldn't be taxed. Most people, including me, would rather see her money go to the state than to chihuaha clothes.

Magrus · #6 (**permalink**) 12-09-2006, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by moltovir

Britney Spears is a musician too, and an extremely rich one at that. I know she doesn't write her own songs, but she's still the performer, so by your standards she shouldn't be taxed. Most people, including me, would rather see her money go to the state than to chihuaha clothes.

No, she should be beaten mercilessly in an attempt to drive sense into her brain. And then taxed heavily for it being necessary to have done so.

Aside from all of that, this is interesting. That kind of falls right in line with the churches I guess, huh? Cool. I should tell some of my friends, they may want to relocate to avoid being taxed.

Tricky · #7 (**permalink**) 12-09-2006, 09:29 AM

I've been to Norway a bunch of times when I was a lot younger. I remember hot summers and wet winters. Interestingly enough, my summers there always seemed to be a lot warmer than the Netherlands (southern). It's an ocean current thing, or so I've been told. Some of their northern harbors don't freeze in the winter either.

Silur · #8 (**permalink**) 12-09-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tricky

I've been to Norway a bunch of times when I was a lot younger. I remember hot summers and wet winters. Interestingly enough, my summers there always seemed to be a lot warmer than the Netherlands (southern). It's an ocean current thing, or so I've been told. Some of their northern harbors don't freeze in the winter either.

Yes, it's a bit like having your upstairs neighbours use up all the hot water before it gets to you... Or in this case, you're getting the used hot water from your up-north neighbours after they've poured some glacier water into it

VonDondu · #9 (**permalink**) 12-09-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by moltovir

@VonDondu: any musician, or just the "artistic" ones? Britney Spears is a musician too, and an extremely rich one at that. I know she doesn't write her own songs, but she's still the performer, so by your standards she shouldn't be taxed.

I mean all performers, musicians, and artists, including those who produce crap. I don't want there to be any tax at all on creativity.

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No, she should be beaten mercilessly in an attempt to drive sense into her brain. And then taxed heavily for it being necessary to have done so.

I take a different view. Britney can do whatever she wants, as far as I'm concerned, and she has rightfully earned all the money she has ever made, regardless of the merit of her work (or lack thereof). In my opinion, the people who should be beaten are the people who collectively shell out billions and billions of dollars for the CDs, magazines, and other products that feature Britney's crap and the people who insist on keeping her in the news. They're the reason why we continue thinking and talking about Britney.

Silur · #10 (**permalink**) 12-10-2006, 04:40 AM

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I take a different view. Britney can do whatever she wants, as far as I'm concerned, and she has rightfully earned all the money she has ever made, regardless of the merit of her work (or lack thereof). In my opinion, the people who should be beaten are the people who collectively shell out billions and billions of dollars for the CDs, magazines, and other products that feature Britney's crap and the people who insist on keeping her in the news. They're the reason why we continue thinking and talking about Britney.

I completely agree. Since it is fairly obvious that the masses want Britney-quality music, it is only good business to give it to them. Still, I wouldn't mind giving James Blunt a bat-induced headache, not so much because people like him, but because I'm collateral damage every time I turn on the radio... I have to give it to him though, hitting the sack with a major producer really did wonders for his carreer, and it's good to see that gender equality is taken seriously in the industry.

Gauda · #11 (**permalink**) 12-10-2006, 04:55 AM

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Wouldn't stripping be rather cold in Norway?

That depends very much on the seasons, and whetever you do it indoors or not

Magrus · #12 (**permalink**) 12-10-2006, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by VonDondu

I take a different view. Britney can do whatever she wants, as far as I'm concerned, and she has rightfully earned all the money she has ever made, regardless of the merit of her work (or lack thereof). In my opinion, the people who should be beaten are the people who collectively shell out billions and billions of dollars for the CDs, magazines, and other products that feature Britney's crap and the people who insist on keeping her in the news. They're the reason why we continue thinking and talking about Britney.

So your solution isn't the sniper rifle type, it's the nuclear warhead type eh?

Mandalorianx · #13 (**permalink**) 12-10-2006, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tricky

I've been to Norway a bunch of times when I was a lot younger. I remember hot summers and wet winters. Interestingly enough, my summers there always seemed to be a lot warmer than the Netherlands (southern). It's an ocean current thing, or so I've been told. Some of their northern harbors don't freeze in the winter either.

well its hotter now, i think we hadd 25-35'c sometimes this summer....

it was a little funny news