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12-09-2004, 06:01 PM
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how can i say this...
i need a little help for my SS hw
we have to have a one paragraph summery of the following:
1. Northwest Territory 1703
2. Louisiana Purchase 1803
3. Florida Cession 1819-1821
4. Texas Annexation 1845
5. Oregon Country 1846
6. Mexican Cession 1848
it has to be an 8th grade para on each, that means 4-6+ sentences in each paragraph
i'm not trying to cheat, it's just that i need a little extra help (i'm doing a lot more extra credit assignments in Math) (and SS is my worst subject)
Thanks in advance for the help guys 
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12-09-2004, 06:05 PM
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12-09-2004, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ideal Maxima ummm...
how can i say this...
i need a little help for my SS hw
we have to have a one paragraph summery of the following:
1. Northwest Territory 1703
2. Louisiana Purchase 1803
3. Florida Cession 1819-1821
4. Texas Annexation 1845
5. Oregon Country 1846
6. Mexican Cession 1848
it has to be an 8th grade para on each, that means 4-6+ sentences in each paragraph | Quick Summaries:
Louisiana Purchase: Sold to US cause France basically lost a war with them and needed cash.
Florida Cession: US invades on some fake triviality that it uses a lot when it needs land. Mexico gave it up for some cash.
Texas Annexation: Texas agrees to be annexed to the Union after US "helps" Texas fight off the Mexican Army (US needed more land and they found a convenient excuse)
Mexican Cession: This is basically California and New Mexico... from them losing the Mexican American War... Look up treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo... that'll help.
These are the summaries I can think of off the top of my head... Keep in mind I take a dim view of America's historical achievements so they may be slightly biased. However factually they're all true I may post more if you need more help or I want to look through my old US History Book.
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12-09-2004, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ekental Quick Summaries:
Louisiana Purchase: Sold to US cause France basically lost a war with them and needed cash.
Florida Cession: US invades on some fake triviality that it uses a lot when it needs land. Mexico gave it up for some cash.
Texas Annexation: Texas agrees to be annexed to the Union after US "helps" Texas fight off the Mexican Army (US needed more land and they found a convenient excuse)
Mexican Cession: This is basically California and New Mexico... from them losing the Mexican American War... Look up treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo... that'll help.
These are the summaries I can think of off the top of my head... Keep in mind I take a dim view of America's historical achievements so they may be slightly biased. However factually they're all true I may post more if you need more help or I want to look through my old US History Book. | THANK YOU!
but maybe i'm naive but didnt the following:
Florida Cession: US invades on some fake triviality that it uses a lot when it needs land. Mexico gave it up for some cash.
happen after we kicked the mexicans out? i thought we fought them, won, and then offered them cash for their land. am i right or wrong? 
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12-09-2004, 07:21 PM
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| | | Louisiana Purchase: Sold to US cause France basically lost a war with them and needed cash.
This is wrong. France did not go to war with us, not then, nor at any other time. The story of the Louisiana Purchase is lengthy and actually pretty amusing, but in the end, the US exchanged a large sum of money to help Napoleon fund his war against England, for all that territory.
I would put down more, here, but that won't help you learn history. I can perhaps explain things you read that aren't clear, but I with respect, I won't do your research for you. If I do, you won't have learned anything.
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12-09-2004, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fable Louisiana Purchase: Sold to US cause France basically lost a war with them and needed cash.
This is wrong. France did not go to war with us, not then, nor at any other time. The story of the Louisiana Purchase is lengthy and actually pretty amusing, but in the end, the US exchanged a large sum of money to help Napoleon fund his war against England, for all that territory.
I would put down more, here, but that won't help you learn history. I can perhaps explain things you read that aren't clear, but I with respect, I won't do your research for you. If I do, you won't have learned anything. | @Fable... you are correct... my memory here was faulty. Though didnt the US and French troops fight at the battle of Orleans AFTER the treaty was signed? Causing needless deaths? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Ideal Maxima THANK YOU!
but maybe i'm naive but didnt the following:
Florida Cession: US invades on some fake triviality that it uses a lot when it needs land. Mexico gave it up for some cash.
happen after we kicked the mexicans out? i thought we fought them, won, and then offered them cash for their land. am i right or wrong?  | Rofl heres a site that seems to directly relate to your HW http://www.socialstudieshelp.com/Lesson_32_Notes.htm
nways the Florida Cession bascially went like this. In 1817 President Monroe lets Andrew Jackson attack the Seminole Inidans in Florida (Due to the concern to secure the US's souther border from the outbreak of revolutions). Jackson kills thousands of Indians and then calls it an act of self-defense. Monroe tells Spain to either police the place or cede it to the US. Spain decides to cede in 1819. US pays 5 Million in damage fees. Yay for the US.
As for helping you research... I share Fable's view but I'm willing to give you a basic general summary. I expect you teacher wants more than just what I put out. This lacks many important details.
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12-09-2004, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ekental @Fable... you are correct... my memory here was faulty. Though didnt the US and French troops fight at the battle of Orleans AFTER the treaty was signed? Causing needless deaths? | That's the Battle of New Orleans, and it was between the British and the Americans, and fought many years later.
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12-09-2004, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by fable I would put down more, here, but that won't help you learn history. I can perhaps explain things you read that aren't clear, but I with respect, I won't do your research for you. If I do, you won't have learned anything. | of course you wont do my search for me  i'm doing the search my self, but i just need a little help on each of those things (1-6) so if u tell me a little bit, i would go onward with the information you gave me.
So as of now, HIGH HO SILVER! AWAAAAY! (to google that is  )
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12-09-2004, 07:38 PM
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| | and here's what i have so far:
Louisiana Purchase 1803
The Louisiana Purchase was a huge addition to our land; it actually doubled the size of our country. The territory was 828,000 square miles! Meriwether Lewis and William Clark explored the gigantic territory from 1804 – 1806. Thomas Jefferson made an offer to France of 15 million dollars. Napoleon, the French general, accepted the offer, for he needed this money to fund his army to have a battle against England.
Mexican Cession 1848
The Mexican-American War raged on for 2 years. When America had defeated Mexico, they made The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Mexico agreed to give America their land as apart of the treaty. Their land includes all of current day California, Nevada, and Utah. It also includes parts of current day Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and Wyoming.
so critisize it, tell me what i'm missing and what i have to fix etc., while you guys do that i'm starting on the florida cession 
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12-09-2004, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ideal Maxima and here's what i have so far:
Louisiana Purchase 1803
The Louisiana Purchase was a huge addition to our land; it actually doubled the size of our country. The territory was 828,000 square miles! Meriwether Lewis and William Clark explored the gigantic territory from 1804 ? 1806. Thomas Jefferson made an offer to France of 15 million dollars. Napoleon, the French general, accepted the offer, for he needed this money to fund his army to have a battle against England.
Mexican Cession 1848
The Mexican-American War raged on for 2 years. When America had defeated Mexico, they made The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Mexico agreed to give America their land as apart of the treaty. Their land includes all of current day California, Nevada, and Utah. It also includes parts of current day Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and Wyoming.
so critisize it, tell me what i'm missing and what i have to fix etc., while you guys do that i'm starting on the florida cession  | You seem well covered on the info front, but a small suggestion  Don't write filler and fluff
For example you don't need to say "The Louisiana Purchase was a huge addition to our land; it actually doubled the size of our country."
Simply state: "The Lousiana Purchase doubled the size of our country."
You may want to replace "Our country" with "The United States," but that is your call
Also, it is more correct to say two countries "signed" a treaty rather than using "make." 
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12-09-2004, 07:49 PM
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| | The Florida Cession all started in 1817 when President James Monroe allowed Andrew Jackson to attack the Seminole Indians in Florida. Jackson did this because he was concerned about outbreaks of Revolutions in the south. Jackson ended up killing thousands of Indians and said it was an act of self-defense. President Monroe tells Spain to either further defend the Native Americans or give up Florida to the U.S. In 1819 Spain decides to give up and gives the U.S. Florida.
now onward to the Texas Annexation... 
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12-09-2004, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fable That's the Battle of New Orleans, and it was between the British and the Americans, and fought many years later. | Yeah my bad... its been too long I guess my history l007 sp33k has died.
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12-09-2004, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ideal Maxima The Florida Cession all started in 1817 when President James Monroe allowed Andrew Jackson to attack the Seminole Indians in Florida. Jackson did this because he was concerned about outbreaks of Revolutions in the south. Jackson ended up killing thousands of Indians and said it was an act of self-defense. President Monroe tells Spain to either further defend the Native Americans or give up Florida to the U.S. In 1819 Spain decides to give up and gives the U.S. Florida. |
nothing wrong with it? 
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12-09-2004, 08:25 PM
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| | | Srry got cut off
Jackson wasnt worried about the US border in the South, Monroe was.
Other than that the info is there but sentence structure is a bit lacking. sounds a bit like news flashes strung together.
I.e. "During this time period the colonies of Spain were experiencing a wave of revolutions. President Monroe however, worried that the fights might spill into the US. The most immediate threat was Florida, which bordered the southern tip of the Union. In order to deal with this problem he blah blah blah..."
Not exactly this... but you have no explanation of why the attack happened.
Also be careful not to use too much repitition.
i.e. Jackson did this... Jackson did this because...Jackson ended up...
gl on this
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12-09-2004, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ideal Maxima The Florida Cession all started in 1817 when President James Monroe allowed Andrew Jackson to attack the Seminole Indians in Florida. Jackson did this because he was concerned about outbreaks of Revolutions in the south. | You may want to look a bit further into this. As your next line shows, Jackson ended up killing thousands of native Americans. How was it an act of self-defense, if a well-trained militia he led, didn't attack first? Were the natives simply so incredibly stupid that they wanted to attack a large army? In addition, Jackson's been called a maniacal bigot. He loathed native Americans, and privately spoke about wiping them like a stain from the earth. The Cherokee still refer to him to this day as Grandaddy White Devil.
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