Night Of Miracles (This is for you, Freddie.)

[ch85us2001]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060330/...me/aids_pill_2

DO YOU REALIZE WHAT THIS MEANS??? I know it's not a cure, but 5 years down the road . . .

It's good to see that we can at least make a little progress in the name of all the people giving there lives to this disease.

[Lestat]

It's nice, but it's no use if most of the people that are HIV can't afford the drugs and if they can, not necessarily have access to them, and their governments don't have the means or will to put in place even a basic health care system.

[ch85us2001]

But It's a start.

[TonyMontana1638]

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Originally Posted by ch85us2001 And, on a much more personal note, my Grandfather has made a complete 180!!!!! The doctor's can't figure it out!!!!!!!!!!!! They say he should make a full recovery!!!!!!!!!! Truly, a miracle at hand.

That's wonderful chus! Yay!

[Oscuro_Sol]

Oh my god chu! You just make me burst into tears! This is definitley a start. And I'm so glad your grandpa is better!

[Chimaera182]

Years of monkey studies with Viread showed partial protection against HIV in healthy primates.

And what, pray tell, is "partial" protection? Don't lets get our hopes up just yet. It's easy to be swept up in that kind of emotional fervor, but it's entirely possible that the drug won't prove to be as effective as some people (and not Gilead, which is wise) are hoping. Also, if people begin taking this drug a lot, it's effectiveness may take a nosedive. The virus could mutate to become more resistant to the drug, and that would be pretty disastrous considering it's one of the most effective drugs on the market today to combat the virus in already-infected people.

The Viread tests in high-risk healthy volunteers was ethically charged from the beginning and several ran into problems. In Cambodia in 2004, local sex workers demanded free health care and compensation if any of the volunteers became infected. Cameroon government officials scuttled a test there in 2005 over allegations of improper volunteer recruitment.

Le sigh. This is the more depressing part--to me--than all the rest. I know I'll get backlash for this, but it's this kind of selfishness which stunts progress. We can consider it wrong for us to test on human subjects, much like the Nazis did (or the scientists in V for Vendetta [good book, but butchered {what a surprse} when turned into a movie]), but I don't recall seeing anyone making much noise about throwing out their results. We could use a regime with blatant disregard for human liberties right about now.

[Fiona]

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Originally Posted by Chimaera182 [B]. The Viread tests in high-risk healthy volunteers was ethically charged from the beginning and several ran into problems. In Cambodia in 2004, local sex workers demanded free health care and compensation if any of the volunteers became infected. Cameroon government officials scuttled a test there in 2005 over allegations of improper volunteer recruitment. Le sigh. This is the more depressing part--to me--than all the rest. I know I'll get backlash for this, but it's this kind of selfishness which stunts progress. We can consider it wrong for us to test on human subjects, much like the Nazis did (or the scientists in V for Vendetta [good book, but butchered {what a surprse} when turned into a movie]), but I don't recall seeing anyone making much noise about throwing out their results. We could use a regime with blatant disregard for human liberties right about now.

*Stands back and watches in admiration as Chim volunteers*

[Chimaera182]

If your death guaranteed the cure for HIV, would you not sacrifice it?

[Fiona]

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Originally Posted by Chimaera182 If your death guaranteed the cure for HIV, would you not sacrifice it?

Ummmm. Don't know. But I won't have to decide, since you are so sure

[Chimaera182]

Not I; I'm too misanthropic to do anything I perceived as helping our vile species.

[Fiona]

Now you really have confused me. What do we need the "regime with blatant diseregard for human liberties" for then? Or is it just how you get your kicks?

[TonyMontana1638]

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Originally Posted by Chimaera182 If your death guaranteed the cure for HIV, would you not sacrifice it?

Maybe, but that's not a decision for you to make or pass judgement on unless you're that actual person.

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Originally Posted by Chimaera182 Not I; I'm too misanthropic to do anything I perceived as helping our vile species.

Hmmm, it seems you've answered your own question then.
*added emphasis on the rolling of the eyes*

[Oscuro_Sol]

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana1638 Maybe, but that's not a decision for you to make or pass judgement on unless you're that actual person.

Agreed...

[Chimaera182]

I'm good at the art of confusion, aren't I?

I can say on the one hand how a regime with blatant disregard for human liberties would be efficient enough to get the job done and not bat an eye at protests. Or I can come clean and say I was being factious. I wish i hadn't thrown out my 12th grade Swift-style essay on what we should do with people infected with HIV. It was probably more succinct.