killing dog because it doesnt get enought attention?

[Sean The Owner]

ok well first as fake names i will use my friends mom as Amanda, my friend as Jen, my mom as Mom and myself as I or me...oh ya and the dog will be Kira(no point hiding her name)

Amanda told Jen that she doesn't give Kira enough attention and that Kira needs a new home in the next week or she would be shot, meanwhile Jen plays with her every single day after school, and Kira has her brother(dog) to play with when she isnt with them. I said a while ago that if she HAD to get rid of Kira I would take her just so she could see Kira again. So Jen told me that Kira would be shot if no one could take her into their home, she also said she would prefer me over anyone to take her but that no one else is willing to take her. I told her I would talk to Mom(and step-dad) and see if we could take her in. Me and my sister went to talk to Mom about it and Mom said she needed overnight to think about it, im pretty sure my step-dad is convinced though. So you know, no pressure just "If you can't take her then Kiras going to be shot.(Jen)" Jen lives out of town, but I'm almost guaranteed a ride to her house and back by my friend, I just need a job later to pay him back with. So right now Jen is really sad because she isn't sure what Mom will say, and neither am I. My guess is that theres a 65-70% chance we will get her, although theres still that 30-35% which is bugging me, alot. Now, I am waiting for Moms answer, and I'm nervous as uhh...I dunno...a mouse trapped in a dry aquariam with a snake.

The thing that bugged me most about this is, so Kira gets shot if she doesn't get a new house...what about her brother? he's not getting shot...

Which brings me to the question, is it right to shoot a dog because you apparantly aren't giving it enough attention?

I say NO! keep until you find a home for it, don't say "well it's gonna be shot if you don't find it a home in the next week"

i put up a poll by the way, please vote in it

[Galuf the Dwarf]

No, it's not worth it. Why shouldn't Amanda surrender the dog/turn it over to an animal shelter, at worst?

If you ask me, Amanda should possibly be looked at for animal cruelty and/or mental issues. I doubt that the animal cruelty thing will go over well without proof or what-not, but this sounds a bit too barbaric to be taken lightly.

[Philos]

I agree with Galuf, turn "Amanda" over to the authorities, and at least put the poor dog in a shelter. This is another sad example of how a lot of people are becoming more prone to see living, breathing beings (including people at times) as merely "things" or "possessions". My vet (I have three cats) has more than once turned down people who have walked in and wanted him to euthanize their perfectly healthy pet because they were tired of taking care of it.

[Sean The Owner]

well, im waiting 70 more minutes before i get an answer out of my mom about us taking Kira...but i dont think the animal cruelty thing would work, and if anything make Jen hate me, but if my mom says no, and theyre going to shoot it ill call them to make sure she stays alive

[dragon wench]

IMO, it is criminal to end an animal's life because the owner no longer wants to care for it.
If people did this sort of thing with children there would be a huge outcry. I don't see this any differently. I mean, can you just imagine somebody taking their son/daughter to the doctor and asking to "have them put down" because they didn't feel like being a parent anymore? At the very least they'd be facing a psychiatric evaluation, and chances are they'd be spending some time in jail too.

When you get an animal, in my view you make a commitment to care for it to the very best of your abilities, and this is something you should think through before getting it! Further, a lot of people do not seem to consider that the average dog or cat lives to approximately 18 years, you have to be prepared for the fact that you will be responsible for the animal over a long duration. There are far too many people who go by a pet store and see that "cute widdle puppy" in the display window. Without a second thought they rush off to buy it.... Ugh... sickening...

[Sean The Owner]

my mom said no... shes such a...ya...apparantly we cant have pets in our house, meanwhile we have a guinea pig and a cat and she said she was going to buy my sister a dog for her birthday...i just left halfway through her attempt to convince me its not her fault, both my brothers and my sister and my step dad adore it and she didnt, im starting to wish she had her own pet so i could put a gun to its head and be like "so this is what it comes down to for kira?"(not actually shoot the pet tho, im still against that...) me and my sister have decided that we are no longer eating with my mom even if its christmas day and we're still pissed off(which i can almost guarantee we will be) also on my birthday, coming up in 17 days i will also not be eating with her, and i forgot to mention if my mom tries to talk to me or my sister we're just gonna say "theres nothing to talk about"

either way, me and my sister have put up with way too much and now we're going to do something about it

[dragon wench]

I'm sorry to hear that..

There might be things you could do though....

For example, maybe you could put posters around your area that explain the situation and ask people to take the dog if they can..
That would make the situation awkward for "Amanda" and it might also result in Kira finding a good home..

Or maybe there are other tactics you could employ to change your mother's mind. Though...be careful, it's likely if you push too hard she'll just become angry and even less likely to budge.
What you need to do is come up with a way to make her see your point without seeming to be a pest. When my son persists with a request I've already said no to, I just get more annoyed.
Though...if he came with a request like that, I'd probably say yes immediately. I might try to find a good home for the dog, rather than keep it, but if I didn't succeed.. the dog would become a part of the family.

[Sean The Owner]

i had a quick look at this but i g2g, thanks DW ill post a longer one when i get on later tonight

[Magrus]

Personally, I find the human view of "pets" in the common sense I have noticed as disturbing to say the least. However, killing your pet becuase you don't want it anymore is homocide, plain and simple. I do not like dogs personally, I just don't get along with any canines besides Huskys or Wolves, but that isn't any reason to harm a dog unless it is harming me first.

If I saw someone saying they were going to shoot there dog because they didn't want it anymore without it being like, completely psychotic and attacking people randomly, I would freak out on that person. I personally don't like most humans I meet, but I don't go shooting them because I don't want to deal with them anymore.

[Sean The Owner]

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Originally Posted by dragon wench For example, maybe you could put posters around your area that explain the situation and ask people to take the dog if they can.. That would make the situation awkward for "Amanda" and it might also result in Kira finding a good home..

they live about 4 hours away from me though, my friend was going to drive me to their house and back with Kira, ill try to get Jen to put flyers out though...

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Originally Posted by dragon wench Or maybe there are other tactics you could employ to change your mother's mind. Though...be careful, it's likely if you push too hard she'll just become angry and even less likely to budge. What you need to do is come up with a way to make her see your point without seeming to be a pest.

I have no ideas to make her budge, my sister going into tears didnt even work, and shes the "baby" of the family...can you think of any ways that you would be convinced so i can try them on her? oh and we did tell her Kira would be shot if we dont take her

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Originally Posted by dragon wench Though...if he came with a request like that, I'd probably say yes immediately. I might try to find a good home for the dog, rather than keep it, but if I didn't succeed.. the dog would become a part of the family.

well, its good to know some people actually care about dogs...shes so cute tho...