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Old 01-14-2006, 05:41 PM
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*nods* I've caught two girls in lies about being raped. I was livid, especially given the experiences my close friends and ex girlfriends have had with that. Some of my buddies wanted to jump the girls for that. I had them spread word through town they weren't to be trusted instead, and they now have no friends.

The police in this area really do not do much in regards to solving such crimes, if I hear of it, and have proof, my friends and I deal with the guy(s) involved instead. After what happened to my one friend, and the police refusing to go after people when we gave them names, addresses, and the names and phone numbers of witnesses to certain things said and done...we've spread it around here not to bother with the local pigs.
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:46 PM
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*nods* I've caught two girls in lies about being raped. I was livid, especially given the experiences my close friends and ex girlfriends have had with that. Some of my buddies wanted to jump the girls for that. I had them spread word through town they weren't to be trusted instead, and they now have no friends.

The police in this area really do not do much in regards to solving such crimes, if I hear of it, and have proof, my friends and I deal with the guy(s) involved instead. After what happened to my one friend, and the police refusing to go after people when we gave them names, addresses, and the names and phone numbers of witnesses to certain things said and done...we've spread it around here not to bother with the local pigs.
I overly prefer vigilante justice as well Mag, way to go
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:54 PM
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I overly prefer vigilante justice as well Mag, way to go
I just don't like seeing people who hurt other people get away with. Especially with clear proof of it, just because the police are scared. I have a viewpoint very different from other people on life. Other people don't scare me either. Most police officers have never been shot at before, I have. Some punk with a .36 doesn't scare me, but the cops around here won't go near that same guy if they know he has one. Defenders my eye.
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Old 01-14-2006, 06:12 PM
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I see no reason why this man should not be killed. He has broken the laws, and that law is punishable by death, after killing one person himself and ordering the murders of three others. He is a danger to society just sitting there, as he was able to, as the article describes and BS pointed out, able to kill by word alone.

He has nothing to do now. although some believe any death is better than death, what would he really recieve other than food in prison? He has no ability for many other things... reading and music, for example, as Magrus described.

I remember such cases in the past where the offender should have been killed for his crimes. For example, although the name has slipped my mind, one man was able to get money for his family for leading police crews to a number of bodies of people he had killed, most of them boys, many of whom he had raped. He had killed close to twenty in total, and was charged with tyime much less than he deserved. In my opinion, serial murderers should be removed from society in any way possible, with the inclusion of Capital Punishment.

Along the lines of rape... the victim is still alive, still breathing, but could you imagine the fear they now feel? Everyday things such as walking by an area which looks like the area the rape occured suddenly bringing you down in tears? Some rapings have lead to mutilations of people, who continued to live on. If a person fears someone so much that they will not turn them in as they feel that person will come to them again, I think it is time to look at rape in a new perpective regarding the time people are put away.

Unfortunately, as people have stated, how would you seperate those who did get raped from those who do not? How many woman claim to being raped every year who may be lying? However few, these woman have made it possible for doubt to be put in every single case, and sometiumes can cause men to get off scot free because there was reasonable doubt brought on by too little evidence.

Actually, rape was once punished by death recently, from what I remember. I found this article a second ago.

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In June 2002, a Pakistani woman named Mukhtaran Bibi was sentenced to be gang-raped by a vigilante mob after her brother was (falsely) accused of rape himself. The Pakistani government, along with local religious officials, condemned this action and sentenced the rapists to death. Many such events are reported in Pakistan and other countries.
It was mentioned under the Punishment by Rape section.
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:22 AM
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I agree with you Hill, he should he punished. He broke the law, he knew the punishment (and if he didn't, ignorance is not a defence), and he pays the price. Just because you suffer any debiliating factors that doesn't mean you shouldn't have to face the problem.

If it was a result of mental problems, then of course the sentence would have been different, but he had a sane mind, and that's what counts, and as a result, he deserves the punishment.

Now, on the other hand, I am against Capital Punishment. There has been an argument in Australia about Capital Punishment, raging for the last 6 months. Most of it revolves around a few incidents in which Australians have either smuggled drugs into or out of some countries in the Pacific, most notably, Bali. Now, the law for smuggling marijuana in Bali can go all the way up to death by firing squad.

However many Australians think that is wrong, and I agree. You should not take someone's life, or else you yourself are no better. You can justify all you want, but the fact is, the deed has been done, and death is just a quck end. I am against the punishment, but they must face up to what they have done.

You can kill in self defence where warranted, but if you kill someone after the event, I believe that is wrong. Life is precious.

So I don't agree with the punishment, but I do agree to him receiving it.
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Old 01-17-2006, 06:20 AM
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I would like to point out that the inmate has been executed.
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Old 01-17-2006, 12:10 PM
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I've always strongly opposed capital punishment...
But, I find this appalling.
Beyond just the ethical issues... this guy is hardly a threat...
Hardly a threat? He didn’t get his sentence for hefting automobiles and hitting people over the head with them. He paid someone to murder innocent people. I presume he still has a wallet and a phone.

If he were being denied work because he were too old, or disabled, there would be a lot of self righteous talk about how he was just as able as anyone else.

I’m not one to celebrate an execution, but I won’t loose sleep over it either.
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Old 01-17-2006, 01:56 PM
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if i were judge, i would never set hime free.
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Old 01-17-2006, 02:24 PM
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if i were judge, i would never set hime free.
That link you are advertising is fairly inappropriate, dontcha think?
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Old 01-17-2006, 02:39 PM
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That link you are advertising is fairly inappropriate, dontcha think?
It clearly says: DO NOT ENTER, somewhere there.
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Old 01-17-2006, 02:47 PM
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It's been reported.

Edit: -and now it is gone. Check your PMs, lty.
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