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11-19-2002, 05:43 PM
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| | | I feel odd.
About twenty seconds ago a fellow employee just blurted out this statement..
"Why cant the rich give to the poor"
Now what is your automatic response, think about what the first thing you thought about and post it because mine frightened me.
"Because they didnt get rich giving to the poor"
I dont know what that means... I feel like the Republican household i was raised in is sticking to my liberalness. The first thing I thought about was the rich people who earned it all...
Anyhow, post!
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11-19-2002, 05:47 PM
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| | *hug* Just remember Republicans have repressed sex lives and you'll never have this problem again. 
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11-19-2002, 06:02 PM
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| | | Re: I feel odd.
Quote: Originally posted by RandomThug
"Why cant the rich give to the poor"
Now what is your automatic response, think about what the first thing you thought about and post it because mine frightened me.
| The first thing that came to my mind was one of the Islamic pillars, where Muslims are obligated to to give a certain percentage of their earnings to the poor, and obviously, not all Muslims do this, because, facts and numbers prove, that such a high percentage of Muslims live in this world, and if all the Muslims did do this, numbers would suggest that there would be no more poor people. And I thought....man....if this idea was followed through by Muslims, what an example that would be, and it would be just as right for everyone to give the same percentage that Muslims are obligated to...just imagine how equal everyone would be financially...
But the first answer (not thought) I came up with after the question is that the masses of people are just plain greedy...everyone...no matter how you look at it. Even if a poor person suddenly became extremely rich, he'd be greedy to. Everyone has some degree of greed.
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11-19-2002, 06:27 PM
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| | The first thing that comes to my mind is this...What I have is mine, to keep or share as I see fit. I do not owe anyone any potion of my life. Nor do they owe anything to me. Each of us has a responsibility to survive, and as cold as this sounds, it is survival of the fittest.
I know that this is a very unpopular belief system in the world today, but it lies at the root of everything I believe in..
BTW....I was raised by parents who were very much liberal Demcrats (cough;socialist)..I remember arguing with my parents about this very issue when I was a child of 10, and becomming so enraged that I called my father, (who BTW was a Vet. of the Korean war) a "communist" That went over like lead balloons So this is something which I have believed all of my intelectual life.
Sharing is a free will act. What these people propose is extorsion, and theft by intimidation. I am by no means wealthy, but I would much rather earn what I have. And keep it...
Read my sig.
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11-19-2002, 06:30 PM
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| | | W'y first thought... "If I was rich I would"
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11-19-2002, 06:33 PM
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| | | Because this world's average person is a stingy bastard.
There's my response. If I can help people in any way, I usually do.
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11-19-2002, 06:53 PM
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11-19-2002, 07:02 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Vivien
*hug* Just remember Republicans have repressed sex lives and you'll never have this problem again.
(I am kidding folks) | LMAO!  Hmmm...how do you know that?
@Thug: My first response is: of course they give to the poor. They do it daily, sometimes as they hire a new employee in their business, or give to charities. However, they always give yearly with a gun pointed to their head...considering that 95% of taxes in the United States are paid by 5% of the population...
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11-19-2002, 07:15 PM
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| |  Why can't the rich give to the poor?
As I see it, there are different kinds of poor people.
Some are poor because of circumstances beyond their control.
Some are poor because they are part of an oppressed group.
Some are poor because of some stupid decisions, habits and convictions that they had in life --- they are now paying the price.
Some are poor because they are too darn lazy and they expect dole outs and that others owe them that they be helped.
As a Christian, I believe in the saying, "God helps those who help themselves."
I also believe in the saying about teaching the man how to fish instead of giving him fish.
To answer RT's fellow employee's question, I'd say, there are only some poor people worthy of rich people's help. These poor people are those who need the right push to do well in life. They have the talent, skill, good attitude and desire to be a productive person. All they need is the ample support to start things off.
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11-19-2002, 07:24 PM
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| | @ Chan and Mah....Well put, I rather regret being so flippant after reading your responses, but sometimes my sarcasm gets the best of me, and I forget there is an opportunity there to actually say something worth while....
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11-19-2002, 08:42 PM
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| |  Nothing to it, Milady...
...*returns curtsie with a kiss on her hand*...
...such "flippancy" is understandable, and perhaps I would like to think that I know what kind of poor people you'd be reacting to in such a manner.
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11-19-2002, 09:58 PM
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| | First thing that comes to mind? You are odd 
As for the whole Zakat issue, if only the Saudi Royal family paid the 2% needed...we wouldnt have poverty. They are sitting on literally 100's of Trillions of dollars.
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11-19-2002, 10:08 PM
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| | | Here's w'y take on the rich...or at least sow'eone with w'illions.
The type I have been around..(w'y age 18 to 24..worked for thew')
They pinch pennies...don't spend w'oney. I have seen thew' wait till the end of the w'onth to collect the interest (buy then) ...instead of getting what they w'ay need during the w'onth. This includes Food. Gas would be the only thing I saw thew' buy all during the w'onth.
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11-20-2002, 12:56 AM
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| | | Well I give to the poor.
Not any substantial ammount, but I do not have a substantial ammount of money. I'd say that at least 2% of all my money is given to poor people...but I think that it is society's responsibility to remove poverty. Until being generous is viewed as normal, it will not happen...
Scayde, so why do you think that you deserve money more than someone born into an uneductaed family of nine, say?
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11-20-2002, 01:04 AM
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| | | I am sure I have a rather stilted view, and there are those people in this world who live in desperate conditions. My heart goes out to those who are trying, but need direction, skills, resources, and even money, to dig there way out of the desperation of there cicumstances. I am a big fan and supporter of a local program called "P.A.T.H" (People Attempting To Help) This is a grass roots organization, operated solely on local donations, and volunteer service. What they do is this, say family#1 of 5, with Mom working part time, and Dad's position gets cut, he is looking for work, and doing the odd jobs, and they are squeeking by, but fall 2 housepayments behind and are in danger of forclosure. Dad goes to PATH, and they pick up a house note, lgiving the family have a breather to get over the hump. Walla, one less homeless family. Next month, Dad gets a new job. Gets re-established. A year later, He is out on a construction site helping build a house for a single mom with a group from 3 local churches. She gets her teaching certificate, and two years later is volunteering as a teacher for adults learning english as a second language, so they can get work at the plant in town, instead od picking cabbage...and on it goes..
This is the IMHO the diffrence in a "hand up",
form a "hand out"
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