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03-07-2002, 10:05 PM
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hey guys, i kinda need to write an essay about human rights abuses in china. i was kinda wondering if i could have a little help. it doesn't have to be a particularly good essay, my teacher is pretty lame. It only has to be 2 pages long and the format doesn't really matter. i know it's not that difficult but i really have better things to do. It's due tomorow. I'm on GMT -8, that's pacific time if you're from around here.
k, since there are a bunch of us we can really cut down the work.
assignments:
Curdis could write the opening paragraph? thanx a bunch, it also has to be tied in with how imperialsim created this problem, good luck.
allright, i'm gonna need 3 body paragraphs i think, so how about Fable, Viv and Abysmal do those, make sure the last one is all about imperialism.
and for closer how about you Ned.
allright guys, good luck! remember, it doesn't have to be perfect.
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03-07-2002, 10:22 PM
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not interested i see, hmm, well, i guess i'll have to do my own homework, grrr, that makes me mad.
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03-07-2002, 10:38 PM
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03-07-2002, 10:54 PM
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allright, BS your assignment is to work on the whole essay, i know you're up to the challenge
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03-07-2002, 10:59 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Aragorn Returns i know it's not that difficult but i really have better things to do. | And I don't ?
O.K. Got Me.
Few countries have been given as much attention as China in recent times regarding Human Rights abuses. Whether this attention is in proportion to the scale of the problem in China is argueable given the many other serious human rights abuses occurring elsewhere. One of the things which makes China's record noteworthy may be the effect that colonial imperialism could have had on the moral philosophy of the Moaist revolutionaries. The post World War II long march and the subsequent 'gang of four' cultural revolution ruthlessly swept aside thousands of years of structured Confusion philosophy and tacitly subscribed to the position that the ends justified the means.
(there you go - remember that a good mark was the result of my contribution and a bad mark was the result of your editing. Also please thank the Australian Taxpayer). - Curdis ! | | | 
03-07-2002, 11:07 PM
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wow, thanx, i think i'll actually use that. just for the record, how much of that is complete BS?
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03-08-2002, 12:39 AM
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hooray, i'm done with my essay, when i get my grade back i'll tell you what i got.
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03-21-2002, 10:09 PM
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03-21-2002, 10:24 PM
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LOL
WOuld have been amusing for the teacher to have read 5 different writing styles in the course of one essay.
@AR, you'd let BS write ANYTHING for you? Ever!?
No offense BS
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03-21-2002, 10:35 PM
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You know, if this subject is going to reclaim a place on this first page, why don't we turn it into a real discussion about the issues surrounding human rights in China? The reasons for these abuses; the currying of favor by hypocritical European nations who want Chinese money; the problems that the Falon Gong, Tibetans, and political dissidents face in Chinese society.
Any takers?
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03-21-2002, 10:36 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Aragorn Returns wow, thanx, i think i'll actually use that. just for the record, how much of that is complete BS? | It's not BS at all  It's just a very brief introduction to the long story of China and how and why we look at China the way we do.
I agree, it would have been fun to see an essay composed by so many distinctly different writing styles  Perhaps I should turn to SYM to get some help with my articles
Hey, anyone feel like writing a journal article about central serotonin receptor systems, personality traits and cognition? I need about 3 articles on this subject
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03-21-2002, 10:40 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by fable You know, if this subject is going to reclaim a place on this first page, why don't we turn it into a real discussion about the issues surrounding human rights in China? The reasons for these abuses; the currying of favor by hypocritical European nations who want Chinese money; the problems that the Falon Gong, Tibetans, and political dissidents face in Chinese society.
Any takers? | Certainly - the flat and hypocritic EU position towards China has annoyed me for a long time, it should annoy everybody that human rights abuses are more tolerated because of the value China has as a potential huge market.
On the other hand it also annoys me that I think we in the west have a deep lack of understanding and knowledge for the history and the situation in China.
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03-21-2002, 11:02 PM
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You want the TRUTH about China!!! You can't ....O.K. seriously I think this is a very interesting topic, but could I please amend the topic to 'China's place in regional and global affairs' The human rights issues are important but they need to be represented in context and I personally see the colonial influence as a distraction rather than a central issue.
To kick off; A bit of East-West influence/perspective with China: Marco Polo went to China looking for gold and came back with Noodles.
It would be interesting to hear from forum members who are regionally/culturally close to China. I have an excellent contact in Chinesse foriegn affairs(Australian) and can ask them questions if any come up. - Curdis ! | | | 
03-21-2002, 11:14 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by C Elegans
Certainly - the flat and hypocritic EU position towards China has annoyed me for a long time, it should annoy everybody that human rights abuses are more tolerated because of the value China has as a potential huge market.
On the other hand it also annoys me that I think we in the west have a deep lack of understanding and knowledge for the history and the situation in China. | I'd agree with both points. It never fails to amaze me that Western nations (this includes the US, of course) approach China with a very cavalier, reprimanding attitude, as if to say, "We, with our history of personal freedoms that are all of a hundred years old, insist that you eliminate elements of your national culture that were already in place before the Roman Empire became either Roman or an empire."
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03-22-2002, 06:37 AM
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When China was established as part of the WTO I was disgusted. Not so much that they allowed a non-democratic country into the WTO, but the fact that China supresses their population with extreme prejudice.
Of course, if you look further, the WTO (which is becoming hated by many) has it's own problems with democracy too.
1) The commitee is not elected; it is appointed.
2) Debates and votes are held in secret.
3) After said votes, no one is held accountable for either side (good or bad).
4) Can anyone here even name a person in WTO?
For an organization that theoretically has the power to control economics in every country involved, it has suprising little accountability.
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