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02-27-2003, 07:54 AM
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They decided on Daniel Libeskind's design. You can view a slide show of it here.
Comments, thoughts, opinions? Do we have an architects on this forum? Or any New Yorkers?
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02-27-2003, 08:05 AM
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I thought they should have made it into a park, of course that could never happen with such a prime real estate piece of land.
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That's very cool... But I also tend to like futuristic architecture.
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I think the loss of life on 9/11 was horrible, and the attacks were a terrible blow to America. I'd like for someone to erect an appropriate memorial to honor the fallen and the rescuers. However, I'm afraid that the new World Trade Center will not be able to meet our symbolic needs, because the commercial needs of the developers will always take precedence. Maybe I'm just cynical, but one reason I say that is because our government has failed to honor the promises it made at the time of the attack. IMHO, symbolism loses a lot of its value when it isn't backed up by something more substantive than empty words and broken promises, and I'll think of that every time I see the new WTC. That's my two cents. As for the design itself, I'd rather not comment.
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02-27-2003, 01:20 PM
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| | Could anything live up to the hopes, could anything provide balm to the wound that still bleeds. The architecture is striking, but I can't help feeling sad. I guess, if it were up to me, I would rebuild the Towers, as they stood, on 9/10, but even then, there is no way to ever turn back the hands of time, so that there was never a 9/11.....
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02-27-2003, 03:11 PM
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I don't like the new "future" look. I find it almost comical to look at the pictures they had.
A park, or a memorial would have been much better...
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02-27-2003, 04:56 PM
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Ugly buildings, they will look like a bad joke in five years time.
I think that a small area of grass where the towers stood would have been a much more sensitive and sensible idea.
And something dedicated to remembering and celebrating the people who died there, human spirit, and peace.
Not another architectural dollar sign.
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02-27-2003, 05:01 PM
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| |  Quote: Originally posted by Mr Sleep
I thought they should have made it into a park, of course that could never happen with such a prime real estate piece of land. | Or something reminiscent of "Hallowed Ground"
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02-27-2003, 05:17 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by frogus
...Not another architectural dollar sign. | But I like dollar signs! 
Interesting that most people think the area should be left as a park. I guess I'm of another opinion. I like the idea of building another tall structure. I don't know that I like the Libeskind design (I'm not real hip to any of Libeskind's stuff, actually), but I'm glad they decided on something that will give the Manhatten skyline a distinctive and forceful look. There will be a large memorial area included on the grounds, though, too.
Some interesting things about the design: the tall structure next to the lower structures will have big garden areas on the higher floors. The height will be 1,776 feet - in memory of the year America claimed independance. That tall stucture next to the lower structure is meant to echo the look of the statue of liberty holding up her torch. There is a "gallery of light" (or something like that) that will be illuminated fully and perfectly by the alignment of the sun each September 11th.
@Vondondu: feel free to comment on the design. That's what the thread is for. Comment on anything you wish - I didn't even specify no spam, so ...
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02-27-2003, 05:24 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Lazarus
But I like dollar signs!
Interesting that most people think the area should be left as a park. I guess I'm of another opinion. I like the idea of building another tall structure. I don't know that I like the Libeskind design (I'm not real hip to any of Libeskind's stuff, actually), but I'm glad they decided on something that will give the Manhatten skyline a distinctive and forceful look. There will be a large memorial area included on the grounds, though, too.
Some interesting things about the design: the tall structure next to the lower structures will have big garden areas on the higher floors. The height will be 1,776 feet - in memory of the year America claimed independance. That tall stucture next to the lower structure is meant to echo the look of the statue of liberty holding up her torch. There is a "gallery of light" (or something like that) that will be illuminated fully and perfectly by the alignment of the sun each September 11th.
@Vondondu: feel free to comment on the design. That's what the thread is for. Comment on anything you wish - I didn't even specify no spam, so ... | While I like the open pavillion, and the spire is a powerful archetectural statement...the circlet of buildings remind me somewhat of broken crystals.....and I feel depressed when I look at them.....I would, as I said before...prefer two magnificent towers.......along with a pavillion. An area, sacred, and hallowed..it is a grave yard after all
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02-27-2003, 05:28 PM
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That's funny, Scayde - someone in my office said the exact same thing about the design looking like broken crystals! The image he was reminded of was from the Superman movies, and that lair that Superman had in the arctic, with all the crystals sticking all over at odd angles ... and I agree. There is something just a bit "crooked" about Libeskind's design (and many of his designs) that makes me step back, scratch my head, and feel sorta sad and lost. Don't know why ...
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02-27-2003, 05:39 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Lazarus
That's funny, Scayde - someone in my office said the exact same thing about the design looking like broken crystals! The image he was reminded of was from the Superman movies, and that lair that Superman had in the arctic, with all the crystals sticking all over at odd angles ... and I agree. There is something just a bit "crooked" about Libeskind's design (and many of his designs) that makes me step back, scratch my head, and feel sorta sad and lost. Don't know why ... | Hmm.Interesting......I kinda remember the movie.I was a kid whenit came out.....
I am ont sure why it makes me think of broken crystals, but the whole thing just looks ..well....shattered to me...
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02-27-2003, 06:23 PM
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Nice. Something unique for the NY skyline, evoking memories but new at the same time.
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02-27-2003, 08:52 PM
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| | Well, this is from the German (online) magazine "Der Spiegel." Even if you don't speak German, it has some nice pictures (better, I think, than the slide show linked above), and you can enlarge them by clicking on them.
I can't quite tell, but it almost looks like those shorter buildings will be all glass over the roof area. That would be pretty awesome.
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02-27-2003, 09:01 PM
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I know most people what some sort of memorial park and I want one too. But I really want the twin towers back. The same thing, exact same from outside. They were stunning to look from NJ shore. There wasn't really anything greater than to look at them tower over the city. NYC had the greatest skyline in the world and those two defined it. I really want them back, but it doesn't look like thats happening.
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