do u know how many peopl would be jobless if we don't??

[TheDude]

Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>So you're definitely breaking the law by smoking, you realize, don't you? You can't legally smoke under 18, I don't think. At least not in Rhode Island, if you're underaged and CAUGHT smoking, say goodbye to your permanent record.

</STRONG>

uh well i'm not breaking any law.
Here in holland we can't buy cigaretes untill we are 16.
But there is no law that forbids us to smoke until we are 18.

[Mr Sleep]

Originally posted by leedogg:
<STRONG>BTW- Hi everyone! </STRONG>

I suppose you have already run?!?

Hi Lee

[Sailor Saturn]

Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>To be honest, yeah. I'll steal the Glaive and have a bit of fun ^_^</STRONG>

Sandy, if you don't stop stealing my glaive, you're gonna get another smacking from my Silence Swordfish.

[Sailor Saturn]

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>What are you non-smoking kids gonna do when someone offers you a toke of MJ? Shadow Sandrock is going to beat them to hell but will everyone resist drugs too? </STRONG>

I'm 18½ and I've never been offered drugs, cigarettes, etc; but if I were offered any of those, I would say no, simple as that. Peer pressure doesn't work on me anymore. I've done enough things to try to "fit in" and none of them work. I gave up trying to fit in by the end of 3rd grade. Besides, I don't need drugs or cigarettes or whatever to get high. I got friends and Dr. Pepper to facilitate that.

[Sailor Saturn]

Originally posted by TheDude:
<STRONG>uh well i'm not breaking any law.
Here in holland we can't buy cigaretes untill we are 16.
But there is no law that forbids us to smoke until we are 18.</STRONG>

IIRC, in Texas and Arizona you have to be 18 before you can smoke or by cigarettes and they ask to see your Driver License if you look like you're under 30.

[Georgi]

Originally posted by Yshania:
<STRONG>It is not the first puff that is addictive, it is the last puff</STRONG>

Ok, but if there isn't a first puff, there's definitely not a last puff

<STRONG>It is good to see that attitudes in young people are changing, that smoking is not the cool thing to do any more</STRONG>

Hey, I guess those speeches by my old headteacher must have done some good after all... I recall him telling us how we should practice in the mirror, saying "No, I don't smoke", ROFL

[Georgi]

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>What are you non-smoking kids gonna do when someone offers you a toke of MJ? Shadow Sandrock is going to beat them to hell but will everyone resist drugs too?

We need fable in here to regale us with tales from the 60's.</STRONG>

It's really not that difficult to refuse, whatever's being smoked Go to any music festival in the country, and a MJ haze will probably cover the whole campsite (even more now that the laws on it have been relaxed, probably). Frankly, if the people you're hanging out with don't respect your decision not to partake, then you're hanging out with the wrong people.

[Shadow Sandrock]

Originally posted by Georgi:
<STRONG>Frankly, if the people you're hanging out with don't respect your decision not to partake, then you're hanging out with the wrong people.</STRONG>

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Georgi]

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>But those "kids" here (no offence intended) will soon be 16, 18 or 21 and likely to come into contact with such vices. How will they react then?</STRONG>

Hey, old-timer I don't know if you can remember all the way back to your youth ( ) but I'm sure back then it was much as in my day, and one came into contact with these things way before it was legal. In my experience, pressure to smoke began at secondary school (age 12-ish). That was when you started to see older kids smoking, and so some people would think it was a cool thing to do. By the time I was 16, and buying cigarettes was legal, most of the smokers were those who had been doing it for several years, wished they had never started, and wouldn't want to pressure anyone else into making the same mistakes that they did. (Incidentally, I don't think checks on age are very strenuous for buying cigarettes, or at least they weren't - might have been increased since they started producing Prove-It cards for 16-year-olds; I know when I used to work in a newsagent, kids who were obviously underage often tried to use the excuse that your average 16-year-old doesn't carry any proof of age.)

Again, alcohol started to be a big thing a few years before it was legal - I think I started going to pubs and clubs, and buying alcohol in off-licences, when I was about 16. By the time I was 18, and off to university, the novelty had pretty much worn off. Yeah, I still drink socially, but not to the extent of getting totally hammered that so many students seem to do several times a week.

As for anything beyond that, well, offers of MJ particularly are not in short supply, and I've never had a problem refusing it.

[ 12-22-2001: Message edited by: Georgi ]

[Shadow Sandrock]

*remembers when a girl in his homeroom popped in with vodka stains on her shirt...*

[Dottie]

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>What are you non-smoking kids gonna do when someone offers you a toke of MJ? Shadow Sandrock is going to beat them to hell but will everyone resist drugs too? </STRONG>

I dont think its anything wrong with taking an occasional drug. I dont smoke, i dont drink alcohole very often(atleast not large quantities) and use other stuff perhaps 2 - 3 times a year. And when someone offers me free MJ at a party or so i dont turn it down just beacause its a drug.

All drugs can be used or abused, its no difference between them, except that some are perhaps easier to get addicted to and so on.

[leedogg]

&lt;-----Drug free too(for the most part)

Sleepy-yep. I had run. Happy Holidays!

[GandalfgalTTV]

I'm 21, started when I was 9 or so, Chesterfield. 1 pack a day, every day, for the past 10 years.

And with the costs of a pack of smokes over here, that means that a small village could have been founded with the money it has cost me

And I must say to all the people that don't, didn't and never will. Don't change this. Quiting becomes harder with every pack.

[TheDude]

yeah know what u mean the prices really are outragous!! and they will only get higher with the Euro comming. As will the prices of Alcohol so in the end every one will stop drinking and smoking because its to expensive.

(but i think not )
Btw Welcome Nice to see we have so much Hollanders