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01-11-2001, 09:07 AM
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| | Just to clear things up - I live in Johannesburg South Africa and Tolkien was born in Bloomfontein about 3.5 hrs South of where I am. | 
01-11-2001, 09:29 AM
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Amazing. Everytime I get on this board, you're here. I've said it before, this game is a sickness.
To your point about casting ressurection on The Grey Pilgrim: amen! | 
01-11-2001, 09:32 AM
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| | Foul, one or both of us are very sick. I just kind of monitor the board while talking on the phone or sorting though my papers - so I am technically still very much working. How about you? http://www.gamebanshee.com/ubb/smile.gif | 
01-11-2001, 02:51 PM
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Agreed. Both of us are sick. I run business development for a group of advertising firms, and since I discovered this place a few days ago, I've had it up all day. I'm usually not in my office, but in between meetings...I come back...So I really am working as well, though this is proving to be a nice distraction... | 
05-11-2001, 10:52 AM
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| | Moving topic to Speak Your Mind... | 
05-11-2001, 02:10 PM
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| | So Gandalf was ressurected by Eru the highest god himself. I didn't think off that. The Barlog gandalf fought was one of the most powerful i believe, and he was the reason the dwarves left Moria aka Khazad Dum. I was reading the Simmarlion and on all the forces Melkor(Morgoth) kept on sending to crush the elves (mainly the gray and high elves) and they were led by the dragon king (forgot its name) and by the elite barlogs. The elite barlogs are supposed to be more powerful than the drake kings? In the Simarllion there wasn't much talk on barlogs, but more on werewolves and dragons.
Gandalf must have died, then been resurrected and picked up by the eagle king and given new powers. Does Gandalf fight Sauron anywhere in the book, because i keep on hearing about a battle between the two, but nothing happened. Did anybody find the end of the story slightly disappointing. I mean the War of the Ring was so hyped up in Elrond's council and i really expected a titanic battle. But what happened was that the Nazgul king led a small force to attack Minas Tirith, but was defeated by the Rohhirim. Then all the humans and elves marched down to the gate of Mordor, where they realized that they were surrounded by a huge army. I though that would be the big battle, but Frodo destroyed the ring and the army collapsed as it came charging down. I expected a larger battle.
Another question. To my understanding Orcs are pure evil creatures made by Melkor as a mockery of elves and are between 6-7 feet. Goblins are small dwarve sized creatures that dwell in mountains bu can come in different sizes, such as the giant goblins. So they are 2 different creatures, aren't they?
I was reading Norse mythology and knowing that Tolkein got alot of ideas from there and Beowulf, i was surprised to learn that the Valar and most of Tolkien's names are from there.  | 
05-11-2001, 02:16 PM
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| | Oh yes i would really love a game where you go and fight 50 orcs or attack a goblin cave. A game where fighting a wolf can be dangerous. That's why i really loved chap. 1 in BG, cause you get to fight a few wolves ogres and goblins, and consider them a tough fight. Its quite boring in bg2 that all you fight are golems. Even in the Drizzt books they didn't fight that many powerful beasts. A couple of dragons, a few mindflayers, some drow, a few golems, a few demons, and over a few years strech. Not like in bg2 where you can fight 5 liches, 5 dragons, 50 golems, 10 rakasha, 50 illithid, and never fight any orcs in the wilderness. | 
05-11-2001, 02:44 PM
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| | Thorin If havent played it that game is icewind dale
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05-18-2001, 02:06 AM
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| | Just so you know, even Sauron "died" many times, just like Gandalf, in silmarillion. But he always get a new body. I might be wrong about all facts here, since it has been a while.
Sauron
Gandalf
Balrogs,
even Dragons i think, are all maiar.
And dragons were indeed more powerful than balrogs. Maybe not the "closest" servants, but indeed the most powerful. They werent suited as servants in ways balrogs were, like leading an army. Well, Melkor surely "invented" even more powerful creatures than the dragons, but they never had the chance to be known of, since the elves cleansing of Melkors hideout
The balrog Gandalf met wasnt one of the strongest, quite the opposite from what i understand.
You people seem to think Gandalf was a demi-god, but there were so many more powerful creatures, even during the LOTR era.
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