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03-01-2003, 09:45 AM
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At Fable's advice I would like to submit this new thread for anyone's/everyone's comments and as a vehicle to share information regarding any of the following (as well as anything else one may feel is relevent to the general topic):
The Council on Foreign Relations
The Bilderburgs
The Illuminati
The Bohemian Grove
Skull and Bones
New world Order
I realize that these are very general and not really couched in question form. I really intend them to be discussion topics. Also, since I am new to this forum I would appreciate any pointers on proper etiquette for starting a thread, etc. as it seems I may have gotten off on the wrong foot with fable(?).
Thanks.
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03-01-2003, 12:00 PM
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Just to be clear: I have no opinions on whatever is going to be discussed. I merely suggested that if it went beyond the parameters of the latest Iraqi discussion, as seemed the case, it belonged in a new thread.
That said, carry on. 
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03-01-2003, 01:24 PM
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| |  Quote: Originally posted by G'Argst
At Fable's advice I would like to submit this new thread for anyone's/everyone's comments and as a vehicle to share information regarding any of the following (as well as anything else one may feel is relevent to the general topic):
The Council on Foreign Relations
The Bilderburgs
The Illuminati
The Bohemian Grove
Skull and Bones
New world Order
I realize that these are very general and not really couched in question form. I really intend them to be discussion topics. Also, since I am new to this forum I would appreciate any pointers on proper etiquette for starting a thread, etc. as it seems I may have gotten off on the wrong foot with fable(?).
Thanks. | It is not that I am a conspiracy advocate..but I do find them interesting .....have you ever heard of a book The Beast of Ellis Island...It is one of the most interesting conspiracy theories I have read...now, I want to make it clear..I am not saying I hold much credence inthese theories..but the corrolations are interesting.....
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@G'Argst: Hello and welcome to SYM...
To tell you the truth I don't know very much about said theories...though just as Scayde I'm rather interested of conspiracy-theories in general even though they may not all sound so credible...
Latest conspiracy-theory I've come across is "the 27 conspiracy", rather odd really....
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03-04-2003, 11:14 PM
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| | @G'Argst, I believe (I have been wrong before) you are hinting at a New World Order with these conspiracy theories (At least from reading the other thread)
Do you believe the US government (Or these groups) can scare the US public enough to ban guns in the US? The NRA has (I believe will always) stop any attempt.
(Myself, I pay no attention to the "Terror Alert" board  << Scare Tactic IMHO)
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03-05-2003, 12:37 AM
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@at99, I removed your post from this thread. G'Argst has already mentioned in the title that he didn't want it spammed. I assume he didn't want to be ridiculed, either. You attempted to do both.
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@at99, I've removed your next pair of posts, again ridiculing the person who started this thread. As for your threats to go to Buck: if you feel that you are being unfairly treated, feel free to do so.
Any further contact on this specific matter between us should be kept to PMs, so as not to interfere with board discussion.
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03-05-2003, 08:51 AM
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Hey fellow conspiracy theorist, you think that maybe all this stuff is rather wacko, well check these articles out.
This one describes a secret conservative plan to promote war around the world,and scarily enough the Bush administration is following it word for word. http://truthout.org/docs_02/022203A.htm
Here be some tales of planned censorship of the media. http://argument.independent.co.uk/co...p?story=381438
And some secret plans to attack North Korea, although nobody wants this to come out. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/28/opinion/28KRIS.html
And of course only hiring yes men for his plans. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/28/bu...partner=GOOGLE
Anyway like to hear more, it ain't paranoia if they really are out to get you. Said by kissinger to Nixon, but applicable anyway to anyone accused of paranoia without reason.
Not really into the Illuminati thing, maybe its true, maybe not, oh well each to their own. To me it seemed rather convenient that 9/11 happened right when Bush's popularity ratings were in the toilet and that the fighter jets had a fair amount of warning but did not shoot the planes down, or that Bush right now is trying to cover up any connections he or his family might have had with Al Quaeda, rather suspicious isn't it, is there any evidence you know of or theories that might deal with this more?
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Interesting comments and links! I am in the process of checking them out.
There is a talk radio host, Alex Jones, that says that they are only 'conspiracy theories' when there isn't any facts to support the suppositions. I guess one could argue about the 'facts' presented by a growing number of mainstream media stories.
Yes, the New World Order is the focus of my musings.
In my opinion, the NRA is nothing more than the ultimate gun owner list for the BATF to use after martial law is declared. Scare the American gun owner into giving up their guns? What will you do when your local police show up at your door to confiscate your weapons 'for the good of the neighborhood'? If you don't believe that could occur search the web on New Mexico State Laws H253.
I want to post another disclaimer: It is not my intention to try to convince anyone that anything I post as IMO has any more worth than anything anyone else can post in support or opposition. I made up my own mind regarding these issues and expect everyone to do the same.
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03-05-2003, 10:43 AM
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Interesting how the movers and shakers behind the PNAC are all members of CFR.
{EDIT by G'Argst} I always try to go to the source whenever possible - http://www.newamericancentury.org/index.html
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03-05-2003, 04:50 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by fable
@at99, I've removed your next pair of posts, again ridiculing the person who started this thread. As for your threats to go to Buck: if you feel that you are being unfairly treated, feel free to do so.
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I dont believe I am dealing with a mellow guy, a little weird for me I am afraid.
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03-05-2003, 04:59 PM
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In the name of all that is right. Get a hold of yourself at99 fables probably the most mellow guy here. You picked a loosing fight calm down and enjoy life.
btw. To make this not spam..
I heard on some local radio station about this broad who was a Skull and Key girl (No relation to the fabled Skull and Crossbones) but she slept with a bunch of those guys and ratted out the story.
Real trip, I'll try to find a link to her book.
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03-05-2003, 06:49 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by G'Argst
What will you do when your local police show up at your door to confiscate your weapons 'for the good of the neighborhood'? If you don't believe that could occur search the web on New Mexico State Laws H253.
| I personally don't own a gun, but I would hate to be the police who showed up at one of my neighbors and tried to take their guns.  Street fighting in Iraq might be bloody...come into my neighbors and watch the fireworks. No joke I can sit here and think of at least 12 houses within 5 miles of where I sit with enough hunting rifles (some big enough to take a 5 inch oak and bring it to the ground in one shot) to arm 60 people.
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@weasel. Anytime anyone asks me about disarming the American public I am immediately reminded of Australia, Canada and the UK. Three decidedly freedom loving populations also and it seems that the majority of the population willingly (at least there wasn't overt revolution) gave up their firearms.
I think we have a unique situation here in that we, as a culture, view firearms differently than most of the rest of the world. We are not that far removed from 1880's Abilene. But I also feel that the majority of folks would capitulate rather than be incarcerated or dead. Most would give them up rather than put their families in danger.
I do own guns, hunt (and fish), as well as shoot for sport (IPSC and skeet). I have questioned what my reaction would be especially since I have good neighbors and close friends that are police officers. I hope I would have enough advance notice to be out of the city when martial law is declared. Or that those officers would turn a blind eye (not all of them are embracing the Patriot/Homeland Security/Police State mentality that the Federal government is advocating).
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