Civilization III

[ThorinOakensfield]

Originally posted by HighLordDave:
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My question is this: How many folks get to Alpha Centauri or deep into the Modern Era before the game ends? I finished at the beginning of the Modern Era (and in fact still had the Advanced Flight and Amphibious Warfare technologies left in the Industrial age) and I was just wondering if this was standard or if people were actually finishing before this. It also kind of peeves me that I was only rated as "Tokugawa the Foolish" on the Civ-o-Meter at the end. Still, I'm loving the game and can't wait to try a different civ.</STRONG>

I played a game with the Zulus. I was using cavalry in the 1900's.

My enemies had pikemen and spearmen.

@Grunt- You're right about all those @55S whining about how bad the game is. I really hate those guys.
civfanatics has tons of topics started by those @55s who are whining about that there is no cheat mode.

IMO Civ3 is great. I have Civ2 and had played Civ1 numerous times at my friend's house when we were about 9. (Then that game was amazing, i couldn't imagine anything better ).

I really suck at the game at difficulties above warlord. Its tought!

Anyway i reccomend people pay a visit to civfanatics because you can download some very good earth maps from there. Look for the one by Marla Singer. Its size huge and is slow on my computer, though.

I played the Germans and using some steps provided by Marla i got all the civs in the right posistion. The game's going okay. I'm falling behind in score. Both the Egyptians and Americans are ahead of me. But thats also because i have a small empire.
I started in Europe with the Romans, Greeks, Russians, English and French and its very crowded. And when i sent my settlers eastwards i found that the Persian, babylonians and chinese had inhabited alot of that area.
Anyway i have good diplomatic relationships with everybody. I'm most technologically advanced in the world. I have sent 6 settlers to South America which is mostly uninhabited.
My grand scheme is too start creating panzers as soon as possible. Its already the 17th century and i've just entered the industrial age(which historically is pretty close). I'm going directly for motorized transportation(panzers). I plan to make tons of them and the my enemiesm who at best will have just pikemen, maybe musketmen will fall easily. At the time i have the smallest army.
I'll probably cause my relations with the Japanese to crash and have my good friends, the chinese and french and indians go and attack them. They'll crush the Japanese. Next i'll go at the Egyptians (who are very powerful). I'm not going at the Americans because they are too far, and i have cities in South America which the Americans can take easily. The Egypitians are relatively close, but they have to go through Greece, Rome, France, Babylon. Plus the Zulus who greatly admire me, will probably gladly fight. I have to make sure the Egyptians don't make right's of passages. This will be a big battle. The Romans, French and Greeks are weak and would fall easily. The egyptians can't touch my cities because my riflemen are too powerful but they can destroy improvements. The Zulus will be able to cause some trouble. I'll ask the Americans for aid, and if they do, they'll send caravels. I might get the whole world on Egyptians and i'll force them to give up cities. Chinese will be next because they are very advanced and have to be destroyed. This will be a really long war because the Chinese have a large empire, but not too powerful all though i doubt my allies's horsemen stand much of a chance against Chinese pikemen. I'll get the Indians on them too. At that point i'll launch a massive campaign on my allies when they are about to destroy the Chinese by sending their whole army in. The European nations will fall easily. The Zulus will still love me. The Indians will decalre war, but they'll have alot of land to go through. Meanwhile i'll call the Americans and Zulus again. I'll probably fight in this too.
At this point, India, China, Eygypt, Japan, Russia, France, Rome, Greece should be fairly weak. I'll still have the very powerful Americans to deal with and also the Aztecs and Zulus. I'll bribe the Americans and have them fight the Aztecs while i send reinforcements to my South American cities. The Americans should overrun the Aztecs. The Americans have much larger army than me, but are not nearly as advanced. My ironclads should make short work of their frigates. Transports will land panzers in America. Americans will attack with Cavalry and leftover swordsman. I'll proobably lose alot of units here, but they're musketmen stand little chance against my guys.

This is a large plan which probably won't work, but at the moment i can't really fight a direct war with anybody.

I have no access to saltpeter and can't make cavalry even. My best offensive unit is the knight.

[HighLordDave]

One more thing, if I want to subjugate someone, do I have to conquer their empire city by city or can I make a break for their capital and take the entire empire at once?

[Bloodstalker]

They will just move the Capital yo another city if you take it. besides, it's more fun to level everything, of course much more dificult now too...

[HighLordDave]

I'm in a pretty good position right now; I'm playing at the easiest level (Hey, give me a break; this is the first time I've every played the game) and I've got mechanised infantry and tanks while everyone else still has longbowmen and spearmen. I am just hoping to be able to conquer the Babylonians without having war weariness kick in.

[HighLordDave]

Another Civ question:

Is it possible to commit genocide against another civ? I decided to go the warmongering route the second time through while playing the Russians. I ran into some neighbours (the Japanese), promptly overran their only city, and razed it. I assimiliated their workers and I thought wiped them all out. However, Japanese warriors keep popping up and attacking my workers and cities. Will they continually spawn throughout the game (like barbarians) or is it possible to completely eradicate them?

[Bloodstalker]

You can completly destroy a civ, I have taken out the Chinese last night, but they have an annoying tendency to settle new cities just as you kill their old ones. I thougt I had killed the Chinese prematurely, and found out they had one tiny city all the way on the other side of the continent. So I'd say you'll just have to find them.


Hope that helps.

[Vicsun]

Originally posted by HighLordDave:
<STRONG>Another Civ question:

Is it possible to commit genocide against another civ? I decided to go the warmongering route the second time through while playing the Russians. I ran into some neighbours (the Japanese), promptly overran their only city, and razed it. I assimiliated their workers and I thought wiped them all out. However, Japanese warriors keep popping up and attacking my workers and cities. Will they continually spawn throughout the game (like barbarians) or is it possible to completely eradicate them?</STRONG>

Have you played Alpha Centauri? It was the same thing there. Whenever you raise a Civilization for the first time their leader "escapes" and a random city of is placed somewhere.

[ThorinOakensfield]

Ofcourse when the Civ runs off, and try to rebuild their empire they start from the beggining i believe and you can probably find them and eradicate them easily.

[THE JAKER]

I was playing a game as Babylon last night and China (who got the sweetest placement on the map and is obviously going to be the winner) and Egypt ganged up on Russia. They managed to completely wipe Russia out, and the portrait of Katherine disappeared off the diplomacy screen.

I got a rather limited amount of land to myself, but one nice thing is that I got a little hilly zone with 6 incense squares. I want to say to everyone: snatch up those luxuries, other civs will pay through the nose for them later in the game.

[Vivien]

I played through the Civ III turorial last night and am now in love with the game I didn't actually fight anyone, but just had fun learning how to handle the other Civ's and try to make money. Only six cities, but culture was very high! Cheers

[Gruntboy]

@Thorin, I'm there, under the pseudonym "Gruntboy"

Re Genocide. It is very possible to wipe out opposing civs. Indeed, military victory requires that you do this. There is an option, that can be turned off, to re-spawn early in the game. However, whiners fail to realise that the AI does things to ensure its survival (without "cheating"). It builds cities in out of the way, desolate places. It maintains settlers for rapid escape, often kept at sea in ships (a civ is not destroyed if it has a settler left and no cities)! You can capture those cities and workers or destroy the cities to truly commit heinous crimes.

Without destroying a civ entirely you run the risk of foreign nationals rebelling - unless you can re-educate them in the ways of your culture.

[Xandax]

I often, if wanting to keep an enermy city, poor in with my own workers and add them to the city - you know repopulate the city with my own people

[HighLordDave]

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>@Thorin, I'm there, under the pseudonym "Gruntboy"

Re Genocide. It is very possible to wipe out opposing civs. Indeed, military victory requires that you do this. There is an option, that can be turned off, to re-spawn early in the game. However, whiners fail to realise that the AI does things to ensure its survival (without "cheating"). It builds cities in out of the way, desolate places. It maintains settlers for rapid escape, often kept at sea in ships (a civ is not destroyed if it has a settler left and no cities)! You can capture those cities and workers or destroy the cities to truly commit heinous crimes.

Without destroying a civ entirely you run the risk of foreign nationals rebelling - unless you can re-educate them in the ways of your culture. </STRONG>

I just joined the Civ Genocidal Maniacs Club today when my Romans overran Athens and eradicated the Greeks (my advisors even told me that they no longer existed). My dilema is this: Do I have to worry about the remaining greek citizens staging a rebellion during times of unhappiness and returning the Greek civ to the game? Or once their face is taken off of the diplomacy screen, are they gone?

I got half a dozen greek workers when Athens fell and I am also trying to decide if I want to have them join my cities, keep them around (and pay unit support on them), or disband them for shields.

[Bloodstalker]

The only time another civs citezens have rioted on me was when I was at war with their country. I have never had a problem after I have wiped out a Civ. not saying it won't happen, but I am a bloodthirsty warmonger, and it hasn't happened yet.

[Mr Sleep]

I have recently been playing Call To Power 2 multiplayer, how does Civ3 differ from Call To Power, is it that much of an improvment?