Actors who should be shot...

[frogus]

Originally posted by C Elegans
PS Your new sig is absolutely horrible

Huh?

Can't help but disagree, Depp is one of the great actors of his generation and his good performances far outway the bad.

I don't believe you . Edward Scissorhands was very good, he was very good in it...but that was a fluke.

@Frogus: Canue? Handsome? Yes, like a piece of raw meat

Many ladies I know would disagree...

[Mr Sleep]

Originally posted by frogus
Many ladies I know would disagree...

I would apply that to Depp as well, i think you would soon find yourself harrassed by many women if you gunned him down

Did you ever see Fear & Loathing, how they managed to change his image so completely, there have been numerous good depp films *goes over to imdb* Hmmmm Donnie Brasco for instance is absolutely excellent, although he does get out acted by Al Pacino

[fable]

To move back in time a bit, Charleston Heston. I never thought much of his performances in various epics in the past, like Cecil B Demille's horrific "The Ten Commandments" remake. Heston always played himself. Now, of course, he's the spokesperson for the NRA, which makes him even more thrilling and worthy of admiration.

John Wayne. Those of you who live in some part of this planet other than the US might not realize how much he became part of the American culture, embodying traits he never possessed simply because, as an actor, he was given the same general role (and the only one) he could perform on screen. In reallife, he was a nice enough guy who reported to the US government any trace of social criticism, which he considered "Communist sympathy." He was prominent among the so-called witchhunters in the McCarthy era. Many people who were no more than concerned citizens lost their livelihoods permanantly thanks to this Hollywood-made icon.

Back to my point. (And please excuse the rant. ) Personal life to one side, Wayne, Heston, and others like 'em only play one type of person, themselves, over and over. I really don't mind what they do very much; it's just that they receive such adulation for doing something relatively simple, compared to the actor who takes on really demanding parts that call for much greater acting ability.

[Mr Sleep]

Originally posted by fable
compared to the actor who takes on really demanding parts that call for much greater acting ability.

Like Johnny Depp!

I agree with Fable, true actors are diverse and demand new and interesting roles, a not very well known actor by the name of Chris Eccelston was in Gone in Sixty Seconds as the bad guy, what is the next thing i see him in? A coming of age movie featuring Cameron Diaz...

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Originally posted by fable
Personal life to one side, Wayne, Heston, and others like 'em only play one type of person, themselves, over and over. I really don't mind what they do very much; it's just that they receive such adulation for doing something relatively simple, compared to the actor who takes on really demanding parts that call for much greater acting ability.

Another one in this mould is Harrison Ford.

[Silur]

Originally posted by fable
To move back in time a bit, Charleston Heston.

"You can't throw me to the lions, I'm Charlton Heston!"

I'd have to agree on both C.H. and J.W. and not only on the basis of their obvious lack of moral values.

[Georgi]

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
Can't help but disagree, Depp is one of the great actors of his generation and his good performances far outway the bad. I actually quite enjoyed Ninth Gate up to a point.

I have to agree. Not about Ninth Gate though, that sucked. But I think Johnny Depp is a great actor, even if the movies he's in aren't that good, his performances usually are. And @Frogus I thought Heather Graham's accent was worse.

I agree with Fable, true actors are diverse and demand new and interesting roles, a not very well known actor by the name of Chris Eccelston was in Gone in Sixty Seconds as the bad guy, what is the next thing i see him in? A coming of age movie featuring Cameron Diaz...

Although a good question is what on earth was a quality actor like Christopher Eccleston doing in Gone in Sixty Seconds...? I mean, that doesn't say diversity to me, it says he needed to make a quick buck in order to carry on making decent lower-budget movies.

Nobody's reading this, are they? Good. Apparently I'm distantly related to Charlton Heston. I'm so ashamed...

[fable]

Originally posted by Georgi
Although a good question is what on earth was a quality actor like Christopher Eccleston doing in Gone in Sixty Seconds...? I mean, that doesn't say diversity to me, it says he needed to make a quick buck in order to carry on making decent lower-budget movies.

John Carradine (fine actor, 1930's through 70's) once did an interview where he pointed out something most people forget, that Hollywood is a salaried business with fulltime workers. He said, almost verbatim, "While John Wayne was starring and getting thousands of dollars a week, I was playing character parts in his films, raising four sons, and getting hundreds of dollars of week." He then went on to say that many of the grade B stuff he appeared in was necessary just to make a living. I suspect that's true of a lot of the better actors out there. Ironically, the very thing that makes you a better actor--the lack of a single visual character for the public to identify you with--is also the reason you can't get the big bucks, and have to play in trash.

[Silur]

Originally posted by fable
Ironically, the very thing that makes you a better actor--the lack of a single visual character for the public to identify you with--is also the reason you can't get the big bucks, and have to play in trash.

So true. Everyone *knows* what Bruce Willis character is going to be like. I guess it's comforting...

[Rob-hin]

Chanak's avatar.... Ernest
He ... is ..... soooooooooooo dumb and not funny! (meaning Ernest, not Chanak)

[Leonardo]

James Spader - He was in Stargate and Crash. Anything more?
Jeoff Goldblum - Besides being a terrible actor, he was also responsible for an enormous killing spree, murdering Charles Bronson wife on Death Wish I
Will Smith - The Fresh Price of Bel' Air?
Bill Pullman - Independence Day and the crocodile movie
Nicolas Cage - I hate him. Knowing that he will star as John Constantine in the Hellblazer movie (despite pleas that Sting could do the part a lot better) only make me hate him more.

[Mr Sleep]

Originally posted by Leonardo
James Spader - He was in Stargate and Crash. Anything more?

Sex, Lies & Videotape, i have commented before in the movie thread on Spader, i think he is a good actor and his roles of late have been rather poor.

Jeoff Goldblum - Besides being a terrible actor, he was also responsible for an enormous killing spree, murdering Charles Bronson wife on Death Wish I

I disagree again, i think he is charasmatic and certainly has range in his acting, again though some of his choices are questionable.

Nicolas Cage - I hate him. Knowing that he will star as John Constantine in the Hellblazer movie (despite pleas that Sting could do the part a lot better) only make me hate him more.

Did you ever see Wild at Heart, he was really good in that, or maybe Raising Arizona?

Try seeing some other films by these actors than their mainstream back catalogue, some of them are actually quite good

Use http://www.imdb.com for any enquiries to their back catalogues.

[Leonardo]

I did watch an awful lot movies with these actors, but I don`t know the original names of the movies, just the Portuguese translations.
In fact I would mention Raising Arizona (named Arizona Nunca Mais in Brazil) as one of the reasons I hate Cage, now I know the original name

[fable]

Jerry Lewis. I'm actually not in favor of hissing any actor, much less shooting one, but can anybody out there explain to me Lewis' on-screen popularity? Here's a comic/actor who began his career by poking fun of physical infirmities, crossing his eyes, making his knees wobbly, and in general looking like a mock-up of those with brain-related motor dysfunction. Later on he appeared on talk shows, where he was intense, brooked no disagreement or even questioning of his views, and showed himself to be a thoroughly unpleasant, ruthless SOB. When he went beyond cheap physical imitations in his later films, he used cheap physical gags that had been done to death by people with much more talent.

I don't know what his standing is now in the US, but the French have always worshipped him. Does anybody know why?

[Tamerlane]

Oh dear, don't get me started on the cross eyed, squeaky voice routine. I've seen more then enough Lewis/Martin movie combinations to last a few lifetime. I have no idea why he was popular, maybe the slapstick routine became his trademark, even though people before him were doing something similar. Never saw his later movies, and frankly can't really be bothered browsing the video stores looking for it.