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01-07-2006, 08:27 AM
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Good to know that there were some who didnt follow orders blindly, I would have thought of doing the same thing, but dont know if I would have had the courage to do so, that man is a real hero, for his courage, and his humanity, May he rest in peace.
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01-07-2006, 09:08 AM
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I never heard of that before. Oh it seems nice. People have brains, and balls, to do what is right.
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01-07-2006, 09:45 AM
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It's good to know some of our soldier's know right from wrong. I was beginning to think that was something that was weeded out of the military after WW2.
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01-07-2006, 02:16 PM
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We learned about this in a class I took and it always angered me how this man was treated after he did what he did. Maybe there is a reason to hope for humanity...
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01-09-2006, 05:46 AM
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@Tony, if they were smart enough to realise the humanity in the man's actions, they wouldn't have started the war, or used napalm to cause so much damage...
Man, the only beast dumb enough to invent things to destroy the planet.
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01-09-2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dj_venom @Tony, if they were smart enough to realise the humanity in the man's actions, they wouldn't have started the war, or used napalm to cause so much damage... | Thank you, dj, Lord knows it had to be said. What a waste of human life.
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01-09-2006, 05:24 PM
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Times like this I am happy that all our scandals only involve vast sums of money in Canada.
Also nice to know that Canadians were considered the best soldiers in WW1 and 2, according to a great many historians, for our sacrifices and actions, and the sheer amount of people who went to Europe both times compared to our population.
Nice to know we are also, along with Austria, a country who has taken it's place in all peace keeping missions.
Finally, its nice to know that there are men like Thompson and his crew in the Anerican army who have the sense of right or wrong, even though everyone, including the president, was, at some level, against him. This is one thing that I would cast as high as those I listed above, especially the action of protecting the innocent and ordering to hold his own countrymen at gunpoint.
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Originally Posted by Hill-Shatar Times like this I am happy that all our scandals only involve vast sums of money in Canada.
Also nice to know that Canadians were considered the best soldiers in WW1 and 2, according to a great many historians, for our sacrifices and actions, and the sheer amount of people who went to Europe both times compared to our population. | Oh don't start this again...  | | |
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Originally Posted by TonyMontana1638 Oh don't start this again... | Nope. Just think that the accomplishments of one man is easily equal to this, if it sets an example for others. (Besides, we don't have much to brag about these days anyways, eh?)
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01-09-2006, 06:06 PM
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Our greatest hero is a guy called Simpson, who had a donkey and was responsible for saving many many people who were wounded. He would travel so much that he became a legend and inspired so many troops, who would cheer when they saw him and his donkey. The enemy caught on, laid an ambush with a wounded man as bait, and sure enough, they got him.
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01-09-2006, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Magrus It's good to know some of our soldier's know right from wrong. I was beginning to think that was something that was weeded out of the military after WW2. | After? Because god knows Americans did nothing wrong or immoral during WW2, or WW1. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Hill-Shatar Also nice to know that Canadians were considered the best soldiers in WW1 and 2, according to a great many historians, for our sacrifices and actions, and the sheer amount of people who went to Europe both times compared to our population. | Not to diminish the accomplishments of the Canadian armed forces, but I kinda think the ANZAC forces take the lead in best soldiers, at least in WW1.
I find the article hard to swallow; I'm just automatically skeptical of anything that paints anyone in a positive light. He probably went home and took his frustration out on his wife and/or kids. Or ran over a wide-eyed, innocent, adorable little puppy. Or else just feared the wrath of his vengeful God if he didn't do the "right" thing.
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@ Chim.
I'm not usually impressed by "heroes", because no-one is one dimensional. But I do not know anything else about this person, and it is a shame to attribute bad things to anyone if you do not know for certain they have done them. This person paid a heavy price for a good action.
I know from what you have said in the past that you do not believe in altruism, but I think people are capable of being that way. I also strongly believe that this is more likely if they see others acting well; and less likely if they do not. It is no less damaging to suppress reports of admirable actions than it is to suppress bad ones,IMO. Both give a false picture of the world and of people's possibilities.
At present there seems to be a focus on the evil things people do and we seldom hear about the good, although it is present every day if you look about. I sometimes think that this is not an accident. Who wins out of making us suspicious of/ frightened of each other? Divide and rule is an old political tactic.
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01-10-2006, 12:30 AM
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Look every national will think his or her own national armed forces are the best in the world or the most honorable. What everybody forgets is that in war there is no honor and no bravery. There is murder death and destruction. WW1 and WW2 saw the killing of men, women and children (all innocent) on both sides. The US did it, the french did it, the canadians did it, the germans did it, the italians did it. Everybody killed innocent civilians in WW2 and WW1. Just because the Allies won, that is the only reason why these soliders are seen as heroes. Had the Nazis won all your soliders would be considered war criminals.
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01-10-2006, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimaera182 Not to diminish the accomplishments of the Canadian armed forces, but I kinda think the ANZAC forces take the lead in best soldiers, at least in WW1. | Hehehe, that's fine by me  . Quote: |
Originally Posted by CM Just because the Allies won, that is the only reason why these soliders are seen as heroes. Had the Nazis won all your soliders would be considered war criminals. | History is written by the winning side...
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