Favorite RPG Of All Time - Page 4

fable · #46 (**permalink**) 10-13-2005, 05:28 PM

@Xandax: Your comments on Diablo are a little extreme, I'll admit, as very few people would go so far as to call Diablo anything but a CRPG, but I couldn'tagree with you more...

I was at E3 when Diablo was first being shown. Nobody except the Blizzard personnel and especially their PR department believed it was an RPG. But the PR folks started hammering away, with a huge number of ads in stores and magazines.

Blizzard simply wanted to hit two huge markets, action games and RPG players. They knew Diablo was an action title that would sell itself to that market based on features. They had to convince the RPG audience that "black" is "white," and they did so with enough money.

Xandax · #47 (**permalink**) 10-13-2005, 11:09 PM

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I was at E3 when Diablo was first being shown. Nobody except the Blizzard personnel and especially their PR department believed it was an RPG. But the PR folks started hammering away, with a huge number of ads in stores and magazines.

Blizzard simply wanted to hit two huge markets, action games and RPG players. They knew Diablo was an action title that would sell itself to that market based on features. They had to convince the RPG audience that "black" is "white," and they did so with enough money.

Excatly, and they won a couple of "RPG game of the year" (or something) awards they could use use in marketing, and spawned a long succession of Action games which have been part in convincing the gameing communities that RPG is killing everything in sight with speed-clicking, as long as you have some skills to assign.

Why oh why couldn't they combine the Adventure genre and the CRPG genre into one (oh yeah, it is cheaper to build a speed-clicking hack*fest). Recently played an Adventure game the other day I hadn't heard of - was not terrible goo, and so very liniar. Imagine combining the tradionally adventure games with the more openness of the CRPGs. Now tha would be nice. But it seems many gamers don't want challenges (other then 10 monsters instead of 5 at the time, and call it an expansion), so that ship has sailed

Sarg · #48 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 10:55 AM

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Why oh why couldn't they combine the Adventure genre and the CRPG genre

Resident Evil, anyone???

TonyMontana1638 · #49 (**permalink**) 10-20-2005, 07:14 PM

With all due respect, I don't think Resident Evil falls in that category... It was an action/horror game with alot of puzzlesolving through-and-through, and I fail to see the RPG elements in their at all.

Kipi · #50 (**permalink**) 10-26-2005, 10:59 AM

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With all due respect, I don't think Resident Evil falls in that category... It was an action/horror game with alot of puzzlesolving through-and-through, and I fail to see the RPG elements in their at all.

Well, hardly suprise, because there aren't any...

But have to agree with the point that Diablo or D2 has never even seen true RPG, not even thinking those are such.
And it's quite sad in what directions RPGs has gone recently. That's why in my top10 is almost only old games, excluding BG2 ToB.

asdfjklsemi · #51 (**permalink**) 10-26-2005, 11:01 PM

I think Neverwinter Nights is pretty amazing just in terms of the community that's sprung up around it--that you can actually play other people's D&D modules with it. I've had outstanding, true RPG experiences with that game playing amateur mods downloaded from Neverwinter Vault.

As a Diablo-hater as well (its formula ruined the potential of Lionheart, to name only one big-name game), I think it's also too easy to be cynical about. The Elder Scrolls games are still coming out and are still incredible RPGs. And regarding a previous comment about mixing adventure and role-playing (which, after all, is the definition of classic D&D), I'd note the Icewind Dale games did just that. 'Twas Diablo with brains, that series was.

Like nearly everybody else, I'm still a Baldur's Gate series guy. SOA remains the best-written CRPG (maybe overall RPG period) I've ever seen.

Lasher · #52 (**permalink**) 10-28-2005, 02:56 PM

Baldur's Gate II, for me... followed closely by FF7. Though with the new FF7 coming out on PS3, things might change, as I've never played a cooler storyline

qwertitus · #53 (**permalink**) 10-28-2005, 05:30 PM

For me it comes down to what game can I play the longest time with that game still being fun and original. Nothing fits that better than Morrowind.

Keltoi · #54 (**permalink**) 10-29-2005, 12:13 PM

My absolute favourite was Arcanum. Everything was great: Story, setting, features, handling,... wow!
My second fave was Arx fatalis because of the magic and alchemy system, the setting and that it stays solvable, no matter what you do.

Greetings
Keltoi

me0w · #55 (**permalink**) 10-31-2005, 12:41 PM

God, the order I couldn't think of.

But its gotta be:

Baldur's Gate (series, although the progress to two was just incredible)
Fallout (^^)
Planescape:Torment (the story was fantastic)

And now, I think I might be adding Fable.
I'm very late at seeing this RPG, but christ, so far (3 hours in) and I'm in love.
I've Rollplayed the Evil path, and already, about 4 quests in I have horns, aloepechia and a red aura (not forgetting the pasty skin and black viens).

mr_sir · #56 (**permalink**) 11-03-2005, 06:21 AM

my first rpg was icewind dale and i loved that at the time but now my faves have got to be baldurs gate 2 (SOA and TOB) and neverwinter nights. i find neverwinter nights so much fun to play. its not got as good a story as baldurs gate series and there are big chunks of it i would improve if i had any programming skills or input into a games development lol but i still find myself spending hours at a time just messing around on it, trying different characters and classes. love the expansions too.

Eric V · #57 (**permalink**) 11-03-2005, 11:28 AM

my favorite old rpg was the dragon warrior I, III the were on NES. they were very fun and i think part III was fun because u could make ur own party that was cool. my favorite of all time is morrowwind for XBOX because of its huge area and the freedom to do want u want.