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05-09-2001, 02:32 AM
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I finished the game a couple of days ago and I don't know if I missed something or did something wrong but I'd like to know the following things:
---what did the Nameless One do to deserve a place in the Lower Planes (what were those evil deeds)?
---what is his name exactly?
---during the final conversation with his mortality, can the Nameless One "unmake" himself simply by believing it enough (does that depend on wisdom)?
---could the Nameless One actually return to Sigil through a portal on the Lower Planes or is he truly dead?
---what happened to Deionarra's vision of her and the Nameless One reuniting in the afterlife?
Thanks for any info!
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05-09-2001, 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Omar:
[QB]I finished the game a couple of days ago and I don't know if I missed something or did something wrong but I'd like to know the following things:
---what did the Nameless One do to deserve a place in the Lower Planes (what were those evil deeds)?
| We don’t know. The only hints are in the opening movie. It’s open to interpretation. Quote: |
---what is his name exactly?
| We don’t know that either. They kept it a secret. (the bastards  ) Quote: |
---during the final conversation with his mortality, can the Nameless One "unmake" himself simply by believing it enough (does that depend on wisdom)?
| Hmmm, don't know about that one. You can convince him to merge with you or kill him, but that's all I'm aware of. Quote: |
---could the Nameless One actually return to Sigil through a portal on the Lower Planes or is he truly dead?
| I think he’s going to be paying for his considerable sins for quite awhile (both the ones he committed as a mortal and the countless others by his various incarnations) Quote: |
---what happened to Deionarra's vision of her and the Nameless One reuniting in the afterlife?
| Wishful thinking? Your guess is as good as mine!
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05-09-2001, 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Omar:
<STRONG>---during the final conversation with his mortality, can the Nameless One "unmake" himself simply by believing it enough (does that depend on wisdom)?</STRONG>
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Yes you can, if i remember correctly you need 23 WIS. |
05-09-2001, 07:23 PM
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What the Nameless One did was to set his mortality aside, and absorb destroy the mortality of another person everytime he died. Whether or not this was a sufficient crime to merit the Lower Planes, several of his incarnations were also ruthless and manipulative, or paranoid killers.
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05-10-2001, 08:12 PM
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@fable, He did something else before that, something so terrible he thought he needed to be immortal in order to have enough time to atone for his sins. Unfortunately this backfired horribly, since he not only lost his memories (and the chance to atone), but some of his various incarnations committed deeds almost as bad. Not to mention source of his immortality, which you refered to: that someone else would take his place whenever he died. The poor guy was doomed from the beginning.  What can change the nature of a man indeed... Regret. (the Nameless One's original answer) *sigh*
[ 05-10-2001: Message edited by: Kayless ]
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05-10-2001, 10:33 PM
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@Kayless, you're right--I stand corrected. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like we'll find out anymore anytime soon, since the game didn't sell well for Interplay, and I doubt they'll be producing a sequel.
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05-11-2001, 04:54 AM
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It’s really sad since Planescape is such a terrific game. Much of what made Shadows of Amn great was learned from Planescape Torment. It deserves a sequel of some kind at least as much as Baldur's Gate. What can change the nature of game?
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Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
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05-11-2001, 01:47 PM
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I hope they don't do a sequel. It would couldn't live up to the original. Interplay should just incorporate the storytelling elements into new games. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread |  Linear Mode | | 
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