Jumble Murdersense, Reekwind, and the hiccups curse:

[Jules]

One thing that doesn't quite make sense to me is how Reekwind blames the fact that Jumble Murdersense cursed him on the fact that Jumble knew his name, but when The Nameless One angers Jumble, Jumble curses him even though he (like everyone else) doesn't know TNO's name. Was the hiccups curse that Jumble put on TNO some kind of "minor" curse that can be inflicted on anyone, regardless of whether the curser knows the cursee's name or not, whereas the incontinence curse that he put on Reekwind was a "major" curse that requires that the curser knows the cursee's name? Or perhaps Reekwind was misinformed, and Jumble would have been able to curse him even if he hadn't let his true name slip? Or maybe Jumble has gotten more skilled between the time he cursed Reekwind and the time he cursed TNO, and he used to need to know the cursee's name, but now no longer requires that?

Any thoughts?

UPDATE: I excluded the possibility that Jumble Murdersense actually KNEW TNO's real name, but perhaps even that possibility isn't completely justified. Given how some very "chaos-attuned" Xaositects (like Barking-Wilder) can somehow intuit things which they have no rational way of knowing (i.e., the location of your journals, in Barking-Wilder's case), could Jumble Murdersense have intuited TNO's name?

[darkwolf]

Originally Posted by Jules

Given how some very "chaos-attuned" Xaositects (like Barking-Wilder) can somehow intuit things which they have no rational way of knowing (i.e., the location of your journals, in Barking-Wilder's case)....

I wouldn't call it intuit...if i remember correctly there was a discussion about this. I think one of TNO previous reincarnation (Practical?) did deliberately disclose to Barking-Wilder, at some point the man was still sane enough, the location of one of his journals, in this case the dodecahedron. As the inscription in the NO tomb says, it is important to keep track of everything, and protect those ppl that holds the keys to the discovering of NO history and identity.

Without these precaution, TTO would have achieved his aim to 'make' TNO forget, thus ensuring TTO's immortality...

[Jules]

Practical might have told Barking-Wilder about the tomb in Drowned Nations, but he wouldn't have known about the Dodecahedron journal, because Paranoid wrote it after Practical's death, and Paranoid wouldn't have wanted to give any future incarnations hints on finding things like the Dodecahedron journal, because he hated all incarnations except himself, future and past.

That is, unless you've found some iron-clad quote from the Practical Incarnation claiming that he "imprinted" Barking Wilder with the knowledge of your journals.

Though I have to say, maybe Xaositects don't get any cool intuitive powers of chaos. I've been playing as a Xaositect, I'm almost at Ravel's maze, and I haven't gotten any benefits from it.

[Jules]

Oh: I ignored the possibility that the fact that TNO didn't have a name (that he knew of) actually allowed Jumble Murdersense to curse him without knowing his name, whereas Reekwind knowing his name without Jumble knowing it would have protected Reekwind if only he'd kept his mouth shut.