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11-03-2006, 03:34 AM
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| | | How in the world do you have an AMD mobile tech in a desktop computer? That doesn't make sense. | 
11-03-2006, 07:48 AM
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| | A turion in a desktop? Is this one of those slim line HPs? HP makes a line of computers that is a small form factor and uses laptop motherboards and processors to save space. If thats what you have then you basically have a laptop masquerading as a desktop. And if that is the case you really don't have any way to upgrade the video card which is your bottleneck for this game.
Rosemary B - as darkpark pointed out I would suggest you go into game options and turn down the texture quality and move the resolution down to 800x600. Then see how the game runs - if it is still too slow then I would suggest you consider returning NWN2 and/or selling your copy. If you don't have the hardware the game is just not going to run well for you. I have to turn down the graphics to play the game well and I have a higher spec machine than you. I will live with it for now as I will be uprading to a new rig before the end of the year.
On a brighter note - if you would like suggestions for games that would run well on your system let me know. For instance - the original NWN would run just fine on your system and you can pick up the Platinum edition that includes the original game and the two expansions for cheap. Your system is not powerful enough to run the new crop of games like NWN2 - but that doesn't mean you can't play games - there are many good games that are a few years old that you can pick up cheap. Newer is not always better... 
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11-03-2006, 09:57 AM
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| | | Rosemary B - you should consider giving Baldur's Gate 2 a try. It is imo a lot better than neverwinter 1, even though the graphics are outdated.
I enjoyed NWN1 + expansions and i'm considering buying the sequel. I would like to play it on my labtop as well as desktop. I'm not much into hardware but I think it will be difficult my labtop specs are:
AMD TURION 64 x2 (dual core) 1,61 GHZ
1 GB RAM
128 MB VIDEO RAM
NVIDIA GFORCE 7600
I figure that it will be difficult since the game isn't using dual core? right?
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11-03-2006, 10:17 AM
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| | | Rosemary B - you should consider giving Baldur's Gate 2 a try. It is imo a lot better than neverwinter 1, even though the graphics are outdated.
I agree with all of that, save the last part. The graphics of BG2 are not outdated: they're excellent 2D. They simply aren't 3D. And given the horrendous hardware requirements for games such as Oblivion and the like, without any commensurate addition to game quality, I'm inclined to think 2D is perfectly fine.
Rosemary, be sure to check out Planescape: Torment, as well. Many of us consider it the most intelligent RPG ever made.
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11-03-2006, 01:49 PM
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| | Planescape:Torment is BRILLIANT! 
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11-04-2006, 07:26 AM
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| | As for the performance issue discussion, I found another tip from Obsidian forum. Obsidian Forum Community -> NWN2 Discussion Thread Quote:
How about disabling the V-sync manually through display properties instead of letting application controlled?
I heard LCD users will have their frame rates limited to 30fps due to its low refresh rate and NWN2 doesn't have a v-sync on/off option which is defaulted as 'on'...
I think its the V-sync problem which plagues so many problems for the users in the Bio forums. It may help solving many slow down issues (for high end GPU users especially) over there if the devs inform them of this V-sync problem and the alternate way to disable it.
Also, it'll be nice if the next patch includes the V-sync toggle though.
| I hope it will help you. | 
11-04-2006, 08:25 AM
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| | | That's the bad thing about RPG games, the new generation of games quickly outpaces the hardware of the prior game generation. Every new Elder Scrolls game that has come out has caused me to go back and buy a new computer or shell out for updated hardware, usually watching the game sit on the shelf for up to 6 months after I buy it. When Oblivion came out, I shelled out for an X800 series Radian card knowing that is was near the top of the charts then meaning it MIGHT be bottom end next time around (instead of me buying the bare minimum card this time and being outdated next week). Good luck Rosemary B. | 
11-04-2006, 03:47 PM
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| | | I just got this game and it runs so slowly that its pretty much unplayable. My comp meets all the recquired specs but even with all graphic options turned down to their lowest it doesnt help at all. It's somewhat baffling because my comp is less than a year old and had Zero problems whatsoever running Oblivion with everything turned all the way up. Bleh | 
11-04-2006, 04:40 PM
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| | | Additionally, you should see if you can just return the game to your vendor. Although the system requirements have to be posted on the side of the box by law, they might take it back anyway. If you have the receipt it's usually not a big deal, just tell them you made a mistake. Happens to the best of us. | 
11-04-2006, 11:13 PM
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| | Does anybody have any tips for getting better framerates.
I have AMD 2800, Radeon 9800 pro, 1gb of ram, and its still pretty laggy at 800x600 expecially in Neverwinter. Everything set to low  | 
11-05-2006, 04:18 PM
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| | I have done some tweaking myself and found some great ways to improve framerates.
First of all, use the top-down camera view, and zoom out and mid level. If you zoom out too much it will cause more lag (obviously because there is more to be drawn). Also gives the game a nice BG2-like feel which I love.
Next, View distance!!! I jacked mine down to like 115 and it helped frame rates tremendously. I really didn't notice any degrade in landscape quality either  Tweaking view distance usually dramatically increases framerates in any 3D game.
Don't run stuff in the background! I disabled my anti virus, anti spyware, and my IRC chat, and it definitely gave some improvements.
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11-08-2006, 07:48 PM
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| | | Hey, guys i have a problem with lagging too.
Athlon 2600 +
FX 5500 256mb (128Bits)
1gb mem DDR 400
Win XP
I don't know if you guys know any other's tip's besides the ones that you gave to Mary.I allready turn all the textures to low and the resolution is at 800x600 even though i get a lot of lagging and a pooor graphic experience, i mean with this comp i was able to run SCCT with a nice viewing, but i think they need to uptimize the programming for Video cards like mine.
Thanks a lot , and sorry for my bad english, i'm not north-american i'm Brazilian.
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11-08-2006, 08:14 PM
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| | Eh, I know of one other person who has I believe the same card that you have and meets all of the other requirements and he can't run it either. I think without a better card, you may not be able to get better than that.  I could be wrong though.
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11-09-2006, 03:25 AM
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| | | Your system is the lowest acceptable one I think, both video card and processor are just in the minimum requirements, meaning that the game is going to run, but everything is crawling....
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11-09-2006, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by casquito Hey, guys i have a problem with lagging too.
Athlon 2600 +
FX 5500 256mb (128Bits)
1gb mem DDR 400
Win XP
I don't know if you guys know any other's tip's besides the ones that you gave to Mary.I allready turn all the textures to low and the resolution is at 800x600 even though i get a lot of lagging and a pooor graphic experience, i mean with this comp i was able to run SCCT with a nice viewing, but i think they need to uptimize the programming for Video cards like mine.
Thanks a lot , and sorry for my bad english, i'm not north-american i'm Brazilian. | Nah, I have pretty much the same specs, your system isn't up to snuff. FX5500 isn't supported in the NWN2 system requirements, after the game was released, the minimum system requirements for a card (for nvidia at least) was an Nvidia GeForce FX5700.
Simply put, you and I both need new cards. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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