Really Recommended Spec?

[Crosswind]

I have an Athlon 1.4, NVidia GeForce 3 64 megs, 512 MB RAM.

I have run it for 30+ hours without a single crash, and it runs seamlessly.

Problems seem to occur for people with:

MX cards (slowdown)

Windows XP/NT/2000 (Crashes)

And other things I'm sure, but that's what I know about.

-Cross

[Aegis]

Originally posted by Alvin
Hmmm...

Where in my post did you guys see me makin fun of Aegis?
All I did was to point out (my way) that his statement was way off. You should rather be be tellin him not to make statements like that, about things he obviusly doesn't know a thing about, because it might chase ppl off 'cause they think this game needs some SUPER cpu wich it doesn't.

Watch it, I'm not going to degrade this forum with incessant flaming and belitting, but when I make comments like my response to the topic question, it's usually in peoples best interest to pay attention. That doesn't mean I'm the be all end all, but When a game won't run, even on a system of which I described (tried it on a friends computer before returning it) I think my points are valid.

[Alvin]

Originally posted by Aegis
Watch it, I'm not going to degrade this forum with incessant flaming and belitting, but when I make comments like my response to the topic question, it's usually in peoples best interest to pay attention. That doesn't mean I'm the be all end all, but When a game won't run, even on a system of which I described (tried it on a friends computer before returning it) I think my points are valid.

Hmm am I to watch it or what eh?

Sure I understand that you're pi**ed 'cause NWN won't run on your system, but that doesn't give you the right to state that it's the games fault, that it needs some super cpu. Obviusly it's something else, as with my crappy low specs, it's runnin fine.
Here's my specs :

AMD K7 500
TNT2 32MB (Nvidia det. 12.90)
SB Live Value
256 SDram
Win 98SE

All I meant with my post was that if you make statements like that, that can hurt the game, you should at least check the facts first.

[Aegis]

Originally posted by Alvin
All I meant with my post was that if you make statements like that, that can hurt the game, you should at least check the facts first.

I did check the facts first, and I got them pretty straight.

Moving to the comment about you being able to run it fine, don't you feel that it is odd that it will run on a computer running older hardware, yet won't run on a top of the line, brand new computer? Obviously, the issue is not with the hardware of the one who purchased it, but on the side of the software.

And in the future, please do not patronize me. I know for more about software, hardware and the relation in which they work then I let on in this board, and am well aware of it when I see bad software.

[Biljac]

My opinion. And I think I can state one. You sir are absolutely wrong. It is your PC, period. It is not the software, period. I am quite sure you beleive you are right but after watching your ramblings and raves, I have came to the conclusion that no amount of words or evidence is going to sway you. Its like a guy with his hand in fire and yelling that its burning but refuses to pull it out and instead blames the guy who lit the flame. But I can state my opinion, even if it is about yours.

[Alvin]

Originally posted by Aegis
I did check the facts first, and I got them pretty straight.

Moving to the comment about you being able to run it fine, don't you feel that it is odd that it will run on a computer running older hardware, yet won't run on a top of the line, brand new computer? Obviously, the issue is not with the hardware of the one who purchased it, but on the side of the software.

And in the future, please do not patronize me. I know for more about software, hardware and the relation in which they work then I let on in this board, and am well aware of it when I see bad software.

If it wern't for your *Moderator* status, I doubt I'd bothered makin a comment on your post. I just felt that since you mod here, you ought to be a little more careful on what you say here.

[Tamerlane]

No need to get upset guys. And for the record, Aegis is a mod of the RPG forum amongst other things.

The only mod to fear ( ) apart from Buck is Xandax, who has free reign over the NWN forums.

[Xandax]

@Aegis and Alvin.
Play nice.
Disagrement like this should be taken to PMs and not on the public board.

And yes - although Aegis is a moderator on the board - he is not in this forum, and therefore has now "power" in here.
And the fact that it says "moderator" under his nick, doesn't give his statements any more valiadtion when talking as a private person.


and just do sound like a deja-vu: Play nice - both of you.



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[Arcane]

You guys should really stop fighting, this sounds like 5 year olds having a fight over an ice cream cone.

@Aegis-seeing that your machine is very top notch, and the game wont run, and you said that the store had over 700 copies returned, well check with the store. if thats not the problem, try to rehaul your pc (no doubt you have already tried that but who knows?)

@Alvin-please refrain from arguing with aegis as obviously it is only his problem (its his computer or game thats running messed up not yours) so i guess that he was one of teh more unlucky people...

seriously i was surprised at the two of you carrying this arguement. it origianally was and still is aegis' problem!

[Stirge]

Hey, I was reading this thread to get information, not to wade through a bunch of whining about who insulted whom.

It seems to me that Alvin's experience shows that NWN can run playably even on early Athlons, but Aegis is obviously right that the fact the game won't run on his more-than-adequate machine shows very clearly that Bioware fu@ked up big time with the release.

I wish their under-the-hood tech people were as good as their "game content" people.

Anyway, people should realize that just because it runs fine on their system doen't mean that the game works correctly. It apparently means that they had the good fortune of ducking the terrible bugs. Aegis seems like a good guy and it's sad to hear he was so badly bitten. If we had more sensible posts in this thread, maybe we could begin to piece together a pattern of what makes the game break. I myself will have to upgrade my box to play my NWN, and I intend to let the antecdotes posted here influence my decision about what (Socket-A) motherboard, graphics card and sound card to buy. Because I'm in this position, I would really love to see this thread get back on topic.

PS: If you run a hardware benchmarking website, you'll get more hits if you make an NWN framerate benchmark as one of your standards. It sure seems a lot more relevant than the Quake3 numbers the lazy testers still spit out. Basically, I want to run NWN with all the graphics goodies (including AA) turned on and get a reliable 60 FPS or so at 1280X1024 (or higher). The cheapest box that can do that without much crashing is what I'm buying. I suspect my situation is not unusual.

[Mr Sleep]

Originally posted by Stirge
I myself will have to upgrade my box to play my NWN, and I intend to let the antecdotes posted here influence my decision about what (Socket-A) motherboard, graphics card and sound card to buy. Because I'm in this position, I would really love to see this thread get back on topic.

Check out this thread, it might help, later on we get into more of the hardware issues, also check out a few threads in tech support, some of it may be helpful to you

[Aegis]

Originally posted by Stirge
Hey, I was reading this thread to get information, not to wade through a bunch of whining about who insulted whom.

It seems to me that Alvin's experience shows that NWN can run playably even on early Athlons, but Aegis is obviously right that the fact the game won't run on his more-than-adequate machine shows very clearly that Bioware fu@ked up big time with the release.

I wish their under-the-hood tech people were as good as their "game content" people.

This is probably the most sensable post in this thread, and exactly what I was getting at. The fact Bioware designed a game that doesn't wokr with major hardware that is set up in a perfectly normal fashion is just ludacris. The fact of the matter is, when you buy a Game, you should expect as much of it, as you would a car. You expect it to work. Maybe some minor problems or glitches, but nothing to the extent that it will work on X amount of computers, but the rest are horribly screwed over, so they don't get to play the game they've waited four years for.

[Recoba]

Thanks for all of the info, but I was wondering about the OS I should choose after upgrade - I currently have 98 (which is pretty good - not too many crashes and it is very 'dirty' (hasn't been reinstalled for 2 years)). Shall I stick with it (reformat + reinstall 98) or move to something newer? I see a comment about 2000/XP with compatibility problems and as for Windows me

As for hardware - looking at P4/ Athlon, 256/512MB ram, Geforce 3+, Soundblaster 128 / 1024, large hdd etc etc.

Thanks again,

Recoba

EDIT : Oops! Just realised there is a whole Tech Support Thread near SYM. I will carry on there. Sorry!