Multiclass Wizard

[Fiberfar]

What is "The best" multiclass Wizard
Myself I prefer a pure Wizard, so I don't know any good combinations exept the palemaster. Good idea's are welcome.

[Volk]

Fighter/Wizard works for me just memorize a lot of protections and focus on fighting abilities, boost them with magic.

[Heidrek]

Rogue/Wizard has some very nice possibilities. High Int. benefits both classes, the Rogue levels give better weapon options, particularly bows and swords/rapiers, evasion and Sneak Attacks, while the Wizard levels allow for Invisibility, Mirror Image, Visages and other defensive spells plus of course hefty offensive spells if you prefer to stay in the background.

[Noober]

Generally some kind of Monk/Wizard/Arcane Archer is the best muticlass wizard, there are about 100 different variations on the Wiz/AA builds. Palemaster is not a good multiclass option, almost as bad for Wiz as RDD is to Sorc.

[Fiberfar]

Originally Posted by Noober

builds. Palemaster is not a good multiclass option, almost as bad for Wiz as RDD is to Sorc.

Actually, the palamaster is good if you don't care about the spells...
A wiz 10/PM 30 (30 int) has a DC on the Deathless mastertouch of 27
the undead graft's DC is 29. With some scrolls he will be a wizard exept the damage his for example Horrid Wilting does(10d8). But he has hitpoints like H*** and are immune to Critical hits, paralysis, hold, stun

[Noober]

Yes, and he will have spell penetration of a level 10 Wizard. Which means that with 32 spell res (max from items) none of your spell will touch me (only 20% of your spells will penetrate if you take Epic Spell Penetration). Then we consider Monks...

In fact at level 40 pure palemaster, your summon will be a better caster.

Though the Immunities and nice, as are the AC bonuses, if looks alot like RDD to me (Fire, para, sleep Immunity and AC bonuses too and breath instead of touch).

DC 29 isn't exactly high either (for both PvM and PvP).

[Noober]

Hmmm, I have reconsidered. A Wizard 29/Palemaster 10/Monk 1 is very deadly. Epic Warding + Immunity Criticals makes you almost invulnerable to physical damage . Then we have Energy Buffer, Evasion, etc.....

[Fiberfar]

after the 15th level of Palemaster, he gets epic spells on his bonus feat list.
I would probably either take Noober's build or a Wizard 20/palemaster 19/ monk 1

[Noober]

Wizards get a bonus feat evey three levels which can also be used for Epic spells, there's not point in taking extra PM levels unless you are desperate for extra AC and can not/do not want to wear an amulet of Natural Armour.

[MIKKYLD]

what are your thoughts on a wiz/rogue build? I'm just starting out in NWN with a rogue1 wiz 4 character - any suggestions on the best way to proceed?

[The Great Hairy]

Originally Posted by Noober

Wizards get a bonus feat evey three levels which can also be used for Epic spells, there's not point in taking extra PM levels unless you are desperate for extra AC and can not/do not want to wear an amulet of Natural Armour.

Before 20th, it's every 5 (not 3) levels for bonus Wizard feats (IIRC).

Cheers,
TGHO

[Noober]

Yes, my mistake, however there is still little reason to take pale over wizard considering that there are very few good epic spells.

[The Great Hairy]

Well, yeah. But the undead arm looks soooooo cool!

And the Monk/Wizard/Pale Master is not a bad combo, simply because you do whack enemies regularly, and the effects are quite nice.

Cheers,
TGHO

[Noober]

I seriously doubt your chances at hitting an enemy, not to mention that your arm uses are relatively limited. The real advantage here is Epic Warding + Immunity: Criticals, which will allow you to take down most melee opponents.

[The Great Hairy]

Are you talking PvP or PvM? (I noticed in the other thread that you mentioned you mostly play PvP). I only play PvM, so my chances of hitting most monsters is actually pretty good. Helps having high Str, etc.

Cheers mate,
TGHO