Which 2007 RPG are you looking forward to the most?

[Gilliatt]

Originally Posted by DesR85

I don't like to ask pointless questions here but why are there a lot of people looking forward to Dragon Age when we have yet to see any actual gameplay demonstration or screenshots of this game? Sure, there are a few articles related to Dragon Age and such but I cannot look forward to a game when there are no screenshots and gameplay demonstrations because I have no idea what will this game look like and how it plays out.

As DW said, Dragon Age looks good on paper. Bioware also have a reputation. They have done some great RPGs in the past. I am pretty sure when you hear that your favorite music band is in the studio doing a new album you are looking forward to it, even though you have not heard any single, because you are confident that they will do something that will please you. For my part, I feel something similar with Dragon Age.

[DesR85]

Okay. It makes sense. I'm not really that much of a Bioware fan but given that they've made good games in the past, like Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire to name a few, I will keep an eye out for this game.

[Siberys]

IMO, everything I've seen that bioware made has been pure crap.

Take for example, neverwinter nights. The very first one, no expansions, was horrid. The gameplay was so linear and straightforward, it was almost an action RPG. While they did IMPROVE on the expansions and all, it still wasn't that tremendously great of a game. The stories they had lacked depth, the fighting was straightforward, not much in the tactics area, while it was nice to have a few extra options in say hordes of the underdark, it wasn't that much less linear.

Then, neverwinter nights 2 came out and I hear people complaining about the incredibly indepth story as if it's too in depth, yet that's exactly what I expect in an RPG, a story and with today's standards, a damn good one too.

Star Wars, KoTOR was nice and flashy, but it also had less of a story than KoTOR 2 did. It was also less finished. In fact, I think that if obsidian had a bit more times on there hands, they could have finished off KoTOR 2 and thus making it a MUCH better game than KoTOR 1.

Dragon Age I don't expect to be much better. After finally playing through all of neverwinter nights 1 and it's expansions, I have little hopes for bioware as of these days, especially when it comes to that of forgotten realms.

this is why Obsidian is so much better. They have bugs, they have clunky controls and interfaces, but one thing I always expect from them is a damn fine story, which they have always delivered even if a few of them might have been a bit unfinished.

Sorry, got off topic a bit. Anyways, I still have high hopes for Titan Quest Immortal Throne, really looks spiffy.

[fable]

Originally Posted by Siberys

IMO, everything I've seen that bioware made has been pure crap.

That may have been because Bioware was two successive companies. The first was owned by four young physicians up in Canada who loved getting together for roleplaying PnP sessions, and wanted to make the best computer version of it they could--which became the BG series.

After that, two of the physicians didn't like the way the company was moving towards becoming a slick corporation, and bailed. The other two took on partners, and faded into the background. The new Bioware makes kiddie RPGs, hits its deadlines on time--unlike its predecessor by the same name--and hasn't got an original or interesting idea to offer, IMO.

[Siberys]

Originally Posted by fable

That may have been because Bioware was two successive companies. The first was owned by four young physicians up in Canada who loved getting together for roleplaying PnP sessions, and wanted to make the best computer version of it they could--which became the BG series.

After that, two of the physicians didn't like the way the company was moving towards becoming a slick corporation, and bailed. The other two took on partners, and faded into the background. The new Bioware makes kiddie RPGs, hits its deadlines on time--unlike its predecessor by the same name--and hasn't got an original or interesting idea to offer, IMO.

Makes sense, Baldurs gate II was awesome even if I despise 2nd edition DND rules.

[Tricky]

This is kind of off topic, but this thread has more than ever made me realise how cynical and bitter I have become as a gamer. I can see pretty well through all the interviews and advertisements. There really isn't a whole lot to anticipate for me at this point. The few games I did buy last year didn't turn out to be that good, and I really thought I was well informed before I bought those.

It kind of reminds me of my brother, who had to 'outgrow' gaming in his early twenties (well over a decade ago). These days he's happily playing Warcraft 3 though, our consumer standards simply aren't the same. Sigh.. I'm just getting really fed up with all the bad purchases.

*/rant*

[Siberys]

It's because our standards are now completely possible. Look at the game final fantasy 1, very basic and straightforward game, not a whole lot of standards now, but back then it was a great game among geeks.

Now we have the technology for graphics, gameplay options, speech dialogue, we have the capability to do better and that's why we set standards is because our standards just get more and more possible to do.

And it's just gonna continue to go up in the standards, 20 years from now, standards for Video Roleplaying Games will be beyond what we can imagine now.

[Tricky]

And back then our standards weren't completely possible? I don't really agree with that, they were just different, more suited to that period. Today's standards don't differ because of how they lack compared to 2017's standards either. No, I don't believe games in general have improved much over the past decade.

It's not really a matter of progress though. Little progress would be fine with me if developers didn't keep forgetting the lessons learned in older games. There is no succession here, just a stagnant line of inovation and amnesia.

[Siberys]

No, I don't believe games in general have improved much over the past decade.

Howso? Graphics and gameplay options HAVE improved over the last decade. Racing games a decade ago you'd be lucky to have more than one car for an option, now you can build your own car in new racing games. A decade ago, 3D games were rare if they existed, now it's expected among most games. A Decade ago playing online with your friends was rare, now world of warcraft has 8 million people doing this. A decade ago games were simple and easy to understand, now the puzzles in a game are complex and very challenging.

Gaming has improved, it's not an opinionated response, there is no "I don't believe games have improved" as they matter of fact have.

[Tricky]

I said it hasn't improved much. And let's leave it at that, I have no desire to prove my point any further than I already have. Fable is not going to be happy with me hijacking threads anyway.

[Mandalorianx]

im looking most to Mass Effect, looks lrealy great

[Drunkside]

Mass Effect!Its from bioware, which has made my two favorite games:Neverwinter Nights, and the best of them all KOTOR! And if Mass effect is as big as they have said, then its a must buy

[Monolith]

Buck, 2 votes for Bioshock and 2 forHellgate, 12 for AoD. Perhaps a new subforum is needed.

[Ghostrider]

Definitely Age of Decadence. Anything else on that list is either boring or more of the same.

[Siberys]

I voted for titan quest Immortal Throne a while back and just recently purchased the game.

Almost everything about the game I absolutely LOVE and is once again, exactly as I expected from Iron Lore. I now have complete faith in this company to deliver decent games in the future.

But as I said, -almost- everything. The only thing I don't like is something rather minor and easily avoidable. It's the transfer system between characters. You can transfer equipment of any kind between two characters in the game, even though that goes against the soul reason the game exists. The story is about 1 hero who is capable of standing up to the Titans and salvage what's left of Olympus and the people's faith in the gods. By using a transfer system, it's almost like creating a parallel universe and a box connected to the two just for the purpose of items.

This makes no sense to the game whatsoever, but it's also easily avoided, since the only thing that makes it less avoidable is mere temptation. Other than that minor querk, brilliantly done expansion, and much more fun than the original due to the new challenges and quests.