SYMISTAN - Senate (No Spam)

[fable]

I would like to suggest that we proceed with the election as quickly as possible, friends and fellow senators. Then we can just as quickly pass a vote to invite in the leaders whose forces surround this building, and set about the business of forming a truly representative government of the SYMistan peoples.

[blake]

I suggest we get the leader of the militia in here, we can hear his views. That might lead to less hostilities if we allow them in rather then make all the decisions without them, after all they maybe amred and dangerous citizens, but they are citizens none the less.

[jopperm2]

We now have the nominations for Prime Minister as me and fable, as well as fable and Frogus for President. Fable and I have accepted. We need to decide what voting method we will use and what restrictions will be placed on running. I move for simple majority vote, and the PM and Pres not be from the same party.

[ik911]

I have passively watched this, and now it is time for us to speak.

This is schematically what we propose:

-Secretary General/Chief of State (elected by General People's Congress)
-General People's Congress (legislative forum that interacts with the General People's Committee; members are secretaries of Symistanian ministries, elected indirectly through a hierarchy of people's committees)
-General People's Committee (serves as the intermediary between the masses and the leadership; composed of the secretariats of some hundred "basic popular congresses.")
-basic popular congresses (members are local representatives: 'the people')
-the people

We will name our country "Socialist People's Symistan Arab Jamahiriya" and the government type will be Jamahiriya (a state of the masses).


(there is not enough time right now to completely be clear, I have to eat right now... )

[jopperm2]

I will have a counter proposal shortly, but I propose that we first work on electing our leaders so that we can effectively deliberate the remainder of the nation's government.

[ik911]

Originally Posted by jopperm2

I will have a counter proposal shortly, but I propose that we first work on electing our leaders so that we can effectively deliberate the remainder of the nation's government.

Very well, we shall now unanimously elect giles337 as the new Chief of State of Symistan. The progress over the last week has been too slow, therefor he gets appointed this leading position.

If this seems undemocratical to you, please, let me explain. The chief of state is merely a 'discussion leader', so to speak. After a few years of prosperity he will become obsolete and the GPC will have full control.

We don't do this to piss you off, members of the Senate, we want to see progress, and we haven't seen progress with your names on it yet.

This newborn country, not independent yet, not stable and leaderless still, needs governing. If you don't do it, we will.

Now that we finally have a 'Prime Minister' or 'President' or however you guys want to name it, it's time to appoint ministries and form a General People's Congress. Let's form a GOVERNMENT!

'For Eternity, Brothers'

[frogus23]

I would like to express my support for Giles as Provisional Governor of SYMistan.

I await his views on the construction of official government organs, and the staging of elections.

[giles337]

My spokesman (ik911) will be providing more information shortly.

[jopperm2]

I will not accept any leader who was not elected amongst the senate and as such do not accept Giles. We must have proper leadership. I move that we hold immediate elections for PM and President then go formward to build the government of the people based on party majorities.

[Tower_Master]

Originally Posted by jopperm2

I will not accept any leader who was not elected amongst the senate and as such do not accept Giles. We must have proper leadership. I move that we hold immediate elections for PM and President then go formward to build the government of the people based on party majorities.

I strongly concur with Jopperm. A government leader of any variety not selected by a majority of the Senate is a mockery of all that we try to build.

[blake]

I disagree, I think giles shall be a wonderful provisional leader. I vote for giles. Thats 2 for and 2 against. I think the remaining communists have agreed and he is fully backed by our party.

[ik911]

So that makes 33% for the communists and 33% for the terrorists in favor of giles337 as Chief of State.

[Sytze]

Fellow SYMISTAN's, would it not be wiser to form a senate first and decide for our leaders next? Why put possible members of a certain party in certain positions when it's not even sure they will make it in the senate.

[ik911]

Once this country has roots, we don't need a leader.

We need the people, because without people, there is no country. We need basic popular congresses to put forward what the people want.
We need a General People's Congress that will interact with these basic popular congresses through the General People's Committee, to make the laws and decisions. And for the time being, we need a Chief of State to maintain order and structure in the new formed government.

That is how we will form this government. I will no longer tolerate any discussion about presidents and prime ministers.

I agree with you, Sytze, that it now time to form the ministries and appoint secretaries who will take their position in the General People's Congress, also (formerly) known as 'The Senate'.

[Dottie]

Giles would not be a leader, he would primarily have the function of makeing this discussion a little bit easier. I support the nomination of both him and fable, and suggest we take a vote on the matter imidiatly.