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03-23-2005, 07:55 PM
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03-23-2005, 10:26 PM
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| | | Martial Law would merely be a step back for this country. If we wish to encourage growth, and stabilization, we mustn't put our people in chains. As the heads of state, we must work to establish the infrastructure with the help of the people, not at the cost of the people.
We are in a geo-political spectrum that, in some year, we may be considered for entrance into the EU. That is a financial and political grace. As it stands now, we are no where near EU support, aid or even acceptance. We lack the infrastructure, we lack the government, and we lack social programs the EU looks for. Instituting Martial Law only strips our country further of those factors, and as such, is not a strong, viable option for this country.
I will, in no manner, support a decision to make Martial Law the law of land. Rather, I shall ensure that we embrace the ideals of the Fabians, and the original economic plans of Marx and Engels.
As a counterpart once said in Canada, "Socialism must be liberal." So to, must Symistan if we are to become the world figure we are meant to be. | 
03-23-2005, 11:55 PM
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| | | we must do something about the chaos our city is in
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03-24-2005, 12:40 AM
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| | | Demortis, may I ask what side you are on? You have not introduced yourself, you are not in a party, and you come suggesting martial law here... | 
03-24-2005, 01:01 AM
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| | | i am the head of the milita, i am for the defence of our country
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03-24-2005, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Demortis i am the head of the milita, i am for the defence of our country | I hate making this comment off the topic of the thread, but at this point, it's needed:
Demortis, this is a game that Fas has set up. He has outlined the rules of the game in a previous thread. He has also asked that anybody not directly involved with the game, having expressed interest in the previous thread, do not post or spam in this thread. Given the fact that it has come to our attention you are not actually an official part of the game, your posting in this thread is considered to be spam, and thus against the wishes of Fas and the game he is attempting to establish.
If you wish to participate within the confines of the game, I suggest you talk to Fas about it. Otherwise, do not post in this thread.
@CM: Sorry for posting an off topic post. I'm sure you understand why though. | 
03-24-2005, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Aegis We are in a geo-political spectrum that, in some year, we may be considered for entrance into the EU. That is a financial and political grace. As it stands now, we are no where near EU support, aid or even acceptance. We lack the infrastructure, we lack the government, and we lack social programs the EU looks for. Instituting Martial Law only strips our country further of those factors, and as such, is not a strong, viable option for this country. | Are you aware that one of the main requirements of joining the EU is a market economy, comrade?
__________________ Vicsun, I certainly agree with your assertion that you are an unpleasant person. ~Chanak | 
03-24-2005, 04:50 PM
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| | | This debate completely lacks legitimacy without the proper sactions of a government. At the moment we are a council of Rebels. We need to elect a leader and draft a constitution. Then, and only then can we begin to think about the first step towards building a great nation, independace.
What I am proposing is a coalition government with shared power so that we can work together to accomplish what needs done.
I would like to nominate myself as Prime Minister and propose someone from one of the other parties take the role of president. We will then collaborate to determine the various miniters from all parties once there is a formal constitution outlining which minsters there should be and providing for the addition of ministers as they become necessary. Who would like to nominate someone to run for president or prime minister?
__________________ "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security,
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03-24-2005, 06:39 PM
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| | | I nominate Fable for prime minister. And no, I wasnt aware of the market economy requirements. Perhaps we should just request a grant. Once we get our government firmly established of course. | 
03-25-2005, 09:45 AM
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| | | That's a nomination for fable from my good friend in the Communist party. Anyone else want to make a nomination? And we still need fable to accept that nomination.
As for the EU, we won't be able to get in for several years. We have nothing to offer yet. I think grants from the WTO, World Bank, EU, US, and other such powers will be the best course of action. I have several plans for how to accomplish these things, but they will have to wait until there is a sovereign nation for money to be granted to.
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03-25-2005, 10:59 PM
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| | | A country cant be succesful without a national flag. I submit this as our flag, we have the Sickle, to symbolise our Workers, we have the Scimitar to symbolise our Muslim Strength, and we have our Star for which we are united. It will be red for the Revolutionary ideals our nation is being founded on, and the 3 symbols will be inside of the Bear, a native creature to our country, whose hides provide many of us with our clothing during the winter. Bears are strong and can be clever, and they are territorial beings, as are we. | 
03-26-2005, 09:56 AM
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| | | I agree with you that a flag is necessary for the success of this nation, but I have a counter-proposal for the flag. The bear is a great idea and I believe could be the symble of our people much as the Americans rally around the bald eagle. I have omitted the minority symbols as they do not represent all of our people, and replaced them with stars to represent the three groups that make up the diverse population of SYMistan. I have also altered the colors to signify that we are independant and distanced from Russia, our former oppressor.
We, of course cannot vote on the matter until we have a government in place. Are there any more nominations for PM or president?
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03-26-2005, 10:00 AM
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| | | I would be honored to accept this nomination, and ultimately to serve the peoples of SYMistan, if they would have me as Prime Minister. I would of course seek to gather all the representatives of the ideologies of our fine nation, and provide a government of unity that would lead us forward into the future.
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03-26-2005, 10:06 AM
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| | | I support Fable's nomination for Prime Minister and nominate Frogus for president.
__________________ Vicsun, I certainly agree with your assertion that you are an unpleasant person. ~Chanak | 
03-26-2005, 10:33 AM
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| | | Seeing as the nominee is a communist, I do not yet support him. Yet, anyway.
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