woad warrior

coon_dog · #1 (**permalink**) 05-17-2002, 06:11 PM

check out thei prestige class by yours truly

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comments and suggestions welcome

/-\lastor · #2 (**permalink**) 05-20-2002, 05:36 AM

Er.... those base saves are WAY to high, even better than a monk's and he's supposed to be a expert in saves.
I hope you've made a mistake when you posted that the base speed is 35 ft a second, a turn is about 6 seconds so his base speed would be 210 ft.
This is a prestige class isnt it? So you've gotta start in another class so without the epic manual you cant reach lvl 20. And if a Barbarian puts skills points in literacy and after that becomes a woad he loses his abily to read?
Lose the arrow lodge, it's too disciplined for barbarians and not very practical in the woods.
This is a guerilla fighter isnt it? Soooooo he would ambush ppl and make small raids. Give him a set simple traps ability, short bow proficiency and take spring attack as a prequisite.

coon_dog · #3 (**permalink**) 05-20-2002, 01:20 PM

no his speed is the same as the barbarian, mistake. No his base saves are worse than a monks, his base save total is 109, a monks is like 140 sumthin

the woad warrior is a prestige class only like a kit, he can be switched to before gameplays starts, so of course the thing about literacy and the levels are both awnserd by this.

as for arrow lodge he is a tactical barbarian, arrow lodge was to protect some of the archers you will find in their midst. their gurellia tactics are used only against military groups; their not a militia, they prefer to attack military targets. As for the abilities you suggested, this class focuses soley on battlefield tactics, but most may pick up a few levels of rouge in their carrer to carry out covert operations.

zorac · #4 (**permalink**) 05-20-2002, 02:35 PM

Unless his base saves really go down to +1 at level 9 his saves are really WAY too high (just like /-\lastor said). I think you should correct the typos on that page if you want better feedback. The BAB for level 4 and 5, are they really +4/+1, +5/+1 that doesn't really work out.

And I don't get what you mean. Is it a prestige class or not? It looks rather like an alternative Barbarian class.

The push force should be described with game mechanics. For example "the first opponent each one meets is knocked down and winded". What does the opponent roll to avoid this? Fort? What about the size. I doubt that you could do this to a dragon or a giant for example.

/-\lastor · #5 (**permalink**) 05-21-2002, 07:28 AM

Hmmm the fact that it isn't a prestige class may confuse and upset the game balance a bit, the whole game of DnD is based on the base classes in the phb. I advise you to make it a prestige class instead.

coon_dog · #6 (**permalink**) 05-21-2002, 01:14 PM

the saves are not higher than a monks, i may rearange them a bit do people stop whining though.

this is no longer a class for the core campaign setting but the start of one for a greek roman campaign setting i am working on. see dndadventure.com for more if your interested 'in the forum under 3ed rules'. I just decided this so dont ask why it isnt on the page.

as for the push force i must have overlooked that thank you; as for save, if the woad warriros strenght is higher than the recipient, the recipient is knocked down. That hits two birds with one stone.

zorac · #7 (**permalink**) 05-21-2002, 01:55 PM

Ok, here are the monk saves. Lets take a look at level 10 for example since your table look strange after that. A monk have +7, your class have +9 and so on. Call me a whiner if you want, but explain how you can say that your class doesn't have higher saves than the monk.

TABLE: The Monk
Base Fort Ref Will
Level Attack Bonus Save Save Save Special
----- ------------ ---- ---- ---- -------
1 0 +2 +2 +2 Unarmed Strike, stunning attack, evasion
2 +1 +3 +3 +3 Deflect Arrows feat
3 +2 +3 +3 +3 Still mind
4 +3 +4 +4 +4 Slow fall (20 ft.)
5 +3 +4 +4 +4 Purity of body
6 +4 +5 +5 +5 Slow fall (30 ft.), Improved Trip feat
7 +5 +5 +5 +5 Wholeness of body, Leap of the clouds
8 +6/+1 +6 +6 +6 Slow fall (50 ft.)
9 +6/+1 +6 +6 +6 Improved evasion
10 +7/+2 +7 +7 +7 Ki strike (+1)
11 +8/+3 +7 +7 +7 Diamond body
12 +9/+4 +8 +8 +8 Abundant step
13 +9/+4 +8 +8 +8 Diamond soul, ki strike (+2)
14 +10/+5 +9 +9 +9
15 +11/+6/+1 +9 +9 +9 Quivering palm
16 +12/+7/+2 +10 +10 +10 Ki strike (+3)
17 +12/+7/+2 +10 +10 +10 Timeless body, Tongue of the sun and moon
18 +13/+8/+3 +11 +11 +11 Slow fall (any distance)
19 +14/+9/+4 +11 +11 +11 Empty body
20 +15/+10/+5 +12 +12 +12 Perfect self

Push force: Yeah, opposed strength rolls might do the trick I guess.

Mr.Waesel · #8 (**permalink**) 05-22-2002, 05:41 AM

Do the saves drop from +9 to +1 at level 11?