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12-08-2004, 08:31 AM
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| | Thou art EEEVVVVIIIILLLLL Yes, they soul is forfit!
Turn away from D&D while thee still can, lest the devil taketh thee!
Check the stories on this Christian look at d&d website.  Those guys are so stupid and narrow minded.
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We become what we think. If we dwell on murder, rape, demonology, sadism, prostitution, witchcraft, etc. we absorb that knowledge and the thin line between fantasy and reality is removed and may leave no way out but death.
If you are involved - even a little bit with any fantasy role playing, stop and ask yourself of its influence on your mind and life.
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12-08-2004, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob-hin Those guys are so stupid and narrow minded.  | You got that right..... It would be like if I get my candy stolen in a D&D session and I go about and kill the guy. In real life, i would have gotten the candy back without violence. Not thinking : the guy stole my candy..... KILL!!!!
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Originally Posted by Luis Antonio Bah! Bunch of lamers! Ye need the lesson of the true powergamer: Play mages, name them Koffi Annan, and only use non-intervention spells! Buwahahahahah! | | 
12-08-2004, 04:39 PM
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| | The people who wrote this have probably never played a single D&D-game themselves. There is some .wav or .mp3 to download on the internet where opinions like this one are made ridiculous. Don't know where to find it though.
You hear some guys playing D&D while eating chips and making stupid jokes. It's really funny 
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12-08-2004, 04:48 PM
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Philippians 4:8 says: "...fill your minds with those things that are good and that deserve praise: things that are true, noble, right, pure, lovely, and honorable." Does D&D measure up to these standards?
| damn right it does, specialy if you are playing a paladin or a cleric Quote: |
was using Magic: the Gathering, the role-playing game called which, like Dungeons and Dragons, has built a cult following among people of all ages across the country.
| wow never thot i wud be part of a cult before. huh ya learn sumthin new every day 
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12-08-2004, 08:59 PM
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| | | True Story Time:
When I was at university, many years ago, the uni RGP group used to play in one of the college (um, dorms to you Yanks I think) cafes. As such, we had a lot of people wander up and ask us what we were doing. We managed to gather quite a lot of members that way.
One time, one of the curious onlookers asked us what we were doing, and when I answered "roleplaying" (and explained what it was) he literally started screaming and yelling and causing a scene. We had security down upon us in moments - and he was yelling to the security guards that we should be arrested, because we were not only endangering our souls, but if we summoned a demon and it got loose, it could kill a lot of people.
Needless to say, we just sat there completely amazed and slack-jawed. Eventually the guards led the guy away and we got back to roleplaying. Apart from a brief meeting with the Head of College the next Monday, nothing more came of it.
Whilst that is the most extreme example, I've had other run-ins where religious people have denounced roleplaying. Universally not one has actually understood the first thing about gaming - they are ignorant and wished to remain so. However, it is mostly the fringe groups who are against it - I know many moderately religious people who actively game, and who see nothing wrong with it.
Over my many years of gaming I've had to defend my past-time from various groups and individuals, most of whom were just plain unaware of what roleplaying was. A general discussion, and 99.9% of them were fine. It's only the fanatics who are problems!
Cheers all,
TGHO
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12-09-2004, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by The Great Hairy However, it is mostly the fringe groups who are against it - I know many moderately religious people who actively game, and who see nothing wrong with it. | True, I consider myself to be moderately religious (don't go to church, because I think that crap isn't religion, but a scene, but you could say I am en alternative Christian) and I am a hard-core player! 
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12-09-2004, 03:24 AM
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| | You should check out www.chick.com. It has a hilarious "educational" comic about D&D Link
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12-09-2004, 09:00 AM
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| | | LOL! That comic goes further than any of the previous ones I have seen. That guy would really hate me. I'm a roleplayer and a Mason.
Seriously though. Most Christians that actually see what is going on have no problem with it. It's lunatics like that chick guy that do it. My father-in-law is a Southern Baptist minister and I have lived in his house. He didn't have a problem with it.
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12-09-2004, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Waesel You should check out www.chick.com. It has a hilarious "educational" comic about D&D Link | Gods what an awfull website!
I actually read a comic and it is so over the top that I can't believe anyone can take it seriously.
The intire site is a parody to itself...
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12-09-2004, 09:06 AM
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| | | Conspiracy theorists would say that these sites are done by gamers and the like to discredit groups that oppose them. Perhaps you aren't too far off on your parody comment Rob!
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12-09-2004, 09:18 AM
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| | | It looks like it's ment seriously, it's a pretty big site with lots of effort put into it.
I can't imagine that it's made by a d&d player. Desides, what's the use of that?
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12-09-2004, 09:24 AM
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| | | I'm sure it probably is serious, but some think that groups will sponsor groups that seem to oppose them to make the opposition look bad.
Like we could easily say, "We're not doing anything wrong here, look at the idiots that write those comics. They don't have a leg to stand on."
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12-09-2004, 09:25 AM
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| | Yup, it's possible indeed.
Me? I just don't care about people who object to d&d. 
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12-09-2004, 09:27 AM
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| | | For more info on that type of conspiracy read Illuminatus! and other types like that.
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12-09-2004, 10:12 AM
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| | | RE : Interesting topic While I don't agree with their extremist point of view. I do defend their right to have that point of view. We might judge them (this particular group of christians, I am also christian and an avid role player) on their strange behavior but a lot of people would and do consider us to be geeks for roleplaying (not that I care ). Also I have met a lot of strange gamers in my days of role playing that fit their stereotypes quite well, especially in the LARP (Live action role playing ) communities and quite frankly IMHO they definitely need to come back to reality (they creep me out). Role playing can definitely be unhealthy if taken to seriously so while there points may be extreme they do have some merit.
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