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01-24-2005, 01:51 PM
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| |  Racial/Creature Stereotypes?
I always thought there was something that was commonly misconcieved about a race or creature in D&D, particularly over a long amount of time, whether it was during one edition or multiple ones.
The biggest one I can think of:
- Dwarves being less charismatic than other races/creatures because they don't bathe enough, or they're plain ugly.
Puh-lease! So over-done. By later editions, particularly 3.5, this was dumped in favor of Dwarves being too secretive and untrustworthy in every creature that wasn't a friend. They've got secrets to keep, after all, so why be so sociable? 
Besides, I know of at least one Dwarf that charms women off their feet. 
Now, I'm going to hand the mic over to someone else to come up with a common stereotype.
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01-24-2005, 02:09 PM
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Half-orc Barbarian.
Hate 'em.
I don't allow half-orcs in my campain unless with a non-fighter class.
They have no value in a party expept for bashing things (that is good), but in any non combat situation they are rediculous.
In online games you see so many of them that they almost are a completly new race! Bah.
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01-24-2005, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob-hin Two words:
Half-orc Barbarian.
Hate 'em.
I don't allow half-orcs in my campain unless with a non-fighter class.
They have no value in a party expept for bashing things (that is good), but in any non combat situation they are rediculous.
In online games you see so many of them that they almost are a completly new race! Bah. | The 'bashing things' comment you made sounds intriguing. Besides, can't some barbarians use a bit of combat skills (ie: tripping, Combat Expertise, etc.) to good use as well?
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01-24-2005, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Galuf the Dwarf The 'bashing things' comment you made sounds intriguing. Besides, can't some barbarians use a bit of combat skills (ie: tripping, Combat Expertise, etc.) to good use as well? | My Two-Head Ogre Barbarian actually foiled an intellectual plot of my DM the other night, believe it or not.
The irony was, he was too stupid to be fooled by the trick  |
01-25-2005, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Galuf the Dwarf The 'bashing things' comment you made sounds intriguing. Besides, can't some barbarians use a bit of combat skills (ie: tripping, Combat Expertise, etc.) to good use as well? | In melee combat, they are killing machines.
Other then that, they have no role playing value IMO. They are dumb and generally played in the same manner.
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01-25-2005, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Aegis My Two-Head Ogre Barbarian actually foiled an intellectual plot of my DM the other night, believe it or not.
The irony was, he was too stupid to be fooled by the trick | Wasn't his INT 9? That's not too stupid. 4 or 5 is too stupid! At INT 9 he can still read. And do crosswords with four letter words. 
My most annoying sterotype are the usuals - Dwarf Fighter with axe. Elf Mage. Halfling Thief. You know the drill. <sigh> I much prefer PCs with a different feel entirely. Played a Dwarf Druid recently, that was cool.
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01-25-2005, 04:51 AM
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| | | No no no, all those numbers are SYMBOLIC. Think of a lard ass/lazy wizard with DEX 5 and con 4 (well to think of it, she'll have 1 hp in the beginning -> a little bite from a rat could kill him -> realistic?) but anyways, having a DEX of 5 doesn't mean she'll be as agile as a...snake?
And the difference between a INT 9 and INT 8 is ridicilous. Like one point could make a difference of how you can speak.
But enuff of those.
More stereotypes:
1. Dwarf with braided (?) red beard, likes gold and ale, uses violence over logic and uses a battleaxe.
2. A Legolas type of elf. Sooo cheezy
3. A "beautiful" blonde male paladin
... well actually all know these steretypes (that are awful, btw) but the worst must be the dwarf. |
01-25-2005, 09:40 AM
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| | Just to be different, I once played an uncharismatice Dwarf Paladin, who drank nothing but tea, was a vegetarian, and used a wooden club as a weapon, and rode a goat. It was fun |
01-25-2005, 02:32 PM
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| | | @Robot flux
Uh, note I said an INT of 4 or 5, not 8. And the numbers are not symbolic, they allow us to get a grasp on our character's limitations.
@Aegis
Now that sounds like an interesting PC!
Cheers,
TGHO
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01-25-2005, 02:49 PM
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| | How about a Drow wielding a dual scimitar?
Most abused FR character I'd say.
(and many players don't like him)
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01-25-2005, 02:56 PM
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Aaaarrrghhh!
I hate that PC sooooo much. I used to like reading Salvatore's books, but now I just can't stand them. Grrrrr... Stupid Driz'zt clones...  
Cheers,
TGHO
PS: Congrats on the 4000th post, Rob.
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01-25-2005, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Great Hairy I hate that PC sooooo much. I used to like reading Salvatore's books, but now I just can't stand them. Grrrrr... Stupid Driz'zt clones...
Cheers,
TGHO | When I played NwN on the internett .... I once found a whole Drizz't clan running aroun with their schimitars (As a mage, I felt the urge to..... Kill em all )
but this is a little of thread
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01-25-2005, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by The Great Hairy Must... Strangle... Rob-hin...
Aaaarrrghhh!
I hate that PC sooooo much. I used to like reading Salvatore's books, but now I just can't stand them. Grrrrr... Stupid Driz'zt clones...
Cheers,
TGHO
PS: Congrats on the 4000th post, Rob. | Hey I didn't say I played it.
I do have a player in my campain right now who does though... coincidentely, he just read the Drizz't books.
4000 already? phew! Hadn't even noticed.
Thanks!
@ Fiberfar
LOL
Why are so many low on inspiration? Does sound like a funny sight!
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01-26-2005, 03:45 PM
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| | Can I come over to your next session and wring his neck?? Bah on Driz'zt. Fie! Fie I say!
Several of the DnD authors (most of whom are dreadful writers) really subscribe to the stereotypes as well. It's very disappointing to read a DnD book and see the same old characters over and over again.
I've always seen RPGing as breaking moulds, and trying new things. What's wrong with playing a Halfling Necromancer? Or a Half Orc Bard? Sounds like fun to me.
Cheers,
TGHO
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01-26-2005, 04:51 PM
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| | Halfling Necromancer... nifty.
Another one I though about...
Dwarven Battleragers being highly unintelligent. Sure, they're likely surly, but making them constantly portayed as rock-brained idiots? *sighs* 
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