Cabalist or Stargazer?

magic screen · #1 (**permalink**) 12-18-2006, 12:56 AM

Which one do you recommend?
I am now a Trickster/Celestial and I am not sure if the Cabalist or the Stargazer is the better 3rd class.

galraen · #2 (**permalink**) 12-18-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by magic screen

Which one do you recommend?
I am now a Trickster/Celestial and I am not sure if the Cabalist or the Stargazer is the better 3rd class.

Personally I'd go with Stargazer, I get sick of having my spells disrupted nearly every time I get hit, so Iron Will is a favourite of mine. Also, whilst Drainlife works, the payback in terms of health gained is minimal. I also consider Celestial magic to be superior to Nether. Apart from Poison Cloud and the Drain Life spell (which is hideously expensive) Nether doesn't have much to offer IMO.

magic screen · #3 (**permalink**) 12-19-2006, 08:28 AM

Thanks for the advice.
Can I use the Summon Deathlord spell as a Trickster?
Will I get experience for the monsters killed by the summoned Deathlord?

Iceman1963 · #4 (**permalink**) 12-19-2006, 08:42 AM

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Personally I'd go with Stargazer, I get sick of having my spells disrupted nearly every time I get hit, so Iron Will is a favourite of mine. Also, whilst Drainlife works, the payback in terms of health gained is minimal. I also consider Celestial magic to be superior to Nether. Apart from Poison Cloud and the Drain Life spell (which is hideously expensive) Nether doesn't have much to offer IMO.

Evidently you have never used any of the nether spells to summon Deathlord, Feind. Beast, Giant, Gaurdian, or Summon Evil.. Whish are very powerful creatures to help you.. If you have your honor and bargain up as well as choosing the merchant heraldry your cost to buy goes significantly down and you can actually make money by selling items you just bought IMO.

Iceman1963 · #5 (**permalink**) 12-19-2006, 08:44 AM

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Thanks for the advice.
Can I use the Summon Deathlord spell as a Trickster?
Will I get experience for the monsters killed by the summoned Deathlord?

No you don't get any experience for the monster killed because you can't do any damage to it yourself.. I never go that way because I've never had any use for that class.

swcarter · #6 (**permalink**) 12-19-2006, 03:12 PM

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Will I get experience for the monsters killed by the summoned Deathlord?

My understanding is that you get experience for any creature killed where you do at least some of the damage yourself.

SWC

galraen · #7 (**permalink**) 12-20-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman1963

Evidently you have never used any of the nether spells to summon Deathlord, Feind. Beast, Giant, Gaurdian, or Summon Evil.. Whish are very powerful creatures to help you.. If you have your honor and bargain up as well as choosing the merchant heraldry your cost to buy goes significantly down and you can actually make money by selling items you just bought IMO.

I have in fact experimented with summoning those creatures, and gave up doing it for the very reason you stated in your subsequent post, plus the fact the darned things kept getting in my way. This was especially annoing when I was giving the Ranger Lord class a tryout, I ended up killing my own summons nearly every darned time. Casting Poison Cloud I found far more effective.

And yes I know all about breaking the bank, but I hate exploiting that bug, not saying that there's anything wrong with doing so, but for me it just breaks the game. And if you've got infinite gold, why bother with spending time and money on Drain life and not just buy 50 or so Cataclysms?

magic screen · #8 (**permalink**) 12-20-2006, 11:50 PM

Thanks for the replies.
Can I buy every nether katal from merchants?
I haven't seen any mandrake root yet.
I want to try out the Hate nether spell

I will go for the Stargazer class, I can use the Deathlord spell as a Trickster already.

galraen · #9 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 04:34 AM

You can't find all the Katals in Alchemy shops, and Mandrake root is one of them. You either have to find it as random loot in a chest or the more powerful Harrowbarks drop them.

Dried Homonculous is another katal that can't be purchased, or found as random loot in my experience, only when dropped by a demon. You can aquire one by killing Voraatus in the tomb of souls, or (if you have the Demon Key) the demon in the sarcophogus.

DaTippMan · #10 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 06:09 AM

I have found that once you have the katal all you have to do is sell it to any merchant and then you can buy it back as often as you would like. Fargrove is cheaper for most of them. I found dragon tooth to be cheaper in skuldoon.

magic screen · #11 (**permalink**) 12-21-2006, 08:05 AM

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I have found that once you have the katal all you have to do is sell it to any merchant and then you can buy it back as often as you would like. Fargrove is cheaper for most of them. I found dragon tooth to be cheaper in skuldoon.

Thanks!

Fullerton · #12 (**permalink**) 06-29-2008, 08:47 PM

Feros Duul in Skuldoon sells mandrake root. I just doubled checked it. And I haven't sold mandrake root. I have horded all the nether ingredients I have found because I didn't know if there was a vendor that sold any of them.

Thank you for the info on selling Dried Homonculous to a vendor so I can buy more. That is very useful knowledge.

Fullerton

file read error · #13 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 12:33 AM

Feros Duul sells a wider variety of kataals and spells if you're a member of the Arcane magic guild, and that might be the reason why he had the mandrake root. Also, anyone who wants to use deathlord beware: they have the potential of freezing the game solid in which case your only option is to reboot your computer, and that isn't funny (it's caused by bugs in their AI). Some people even reported that the deathlord turns on you after some time, meaning that it stops attacking monsters and instead it will attack YOU. I'd rather use Summon Evil instead.

asheebeyle · #14 (**permalink**) 07-15-2008, 11:28 PM

What I recommend most to all is the cabal game its because I used to play it and I have my own character which is a force shielder..I have many skills like blade of judgment and many more..Hope you'll appreciate it!! Thanks!!

bandit11 · #15 (**permalink**) 07-19-2008, 03:27 PM

I discovered a dried homonculous in a treasure chest at the bottom of the lake Dread...that's the lake with the demon stone on the island, right? Anyway, the chest is a little ways toward the spell that Nauselom (or was it Volgar??) put on the water, and about 1/2 way across the lake. Just sayin I found one there, I don't know if the contents of the chest are the same every time??? My classes are Knight, Rogue, Budoka, and Samurai.