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03-27-2006, 02:51 PM
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| | | bow or crossbow? I have gathered the runes needed for Faith, and I am trying to decide what a should put them into.
I have a 4 socketed demon crossbow and a 4 socketed shadow bow. My amazon has a total increased attack speed of 120%, and she will get at least another 31% from the aura on Faith.
the shadow bow has a base speed of 0, and the demon crossbow is listed at -60. Where can i go to find the ias i would need to hit various break points with these two weapons?
According to the build guide, you need 157 ias on a hydra bow to hit the 8/2 breakpoint, so that makes me think that 151 ias on a shadow bow should hit 8/2, but i do not know for sure. I do not know anything about crossbows really, but that -60 speed just looks so fast...
i have also given thought to trying to get a hold of a 4os grand matron bow, but they are slow, and I really don't want to change my equipment. | 
03-27-2006, 03:07 PM
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| | | I have not played much amazon but my advice would be to wait until you find a hydra bow.
I believe the following to be correct:
A crossbow will never go below 3 frames per attack with strafe.
A shadow bow needs 23% ias with lvl 12 fanaticism and a hydra bow needs 39% to reach 2 fpa.
So imo there is no reason to choose lower damage here, 40% ias is easy to get.
edit:
Just checked and a Grand matron bow also needs 39% ias to reach 2 fpa, and that one does even more damage, with the added benefit of extra skills, so wait for one of those.
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03-27-2006, 07:56 PM
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| | | The most popular for PvP is GMB, so I assume its the best choice. I rarely bother with bowazon's however so I may be incorrect...
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03-27-2006, 08:40 PM
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| | Grand Matron Bow is most common for both PvP and PvP. If you play PvM, you'd do most damage if you give the Faith to your merc and use a Windforce yourself, but maybe you want the Faith yourself 
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03-27-2006, 09:15 PM
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| | | i had thought about giving it to a merc... but i am using a might merc right now, and since fanat gives the highest damage bonus to the user, i figured i was better off keeping the faith for myself. Oh, I play strictly PvM, also.
Dottie, you "just checked" how much ias was needed on a grand matron bow to reach 2fpa, where did you go to check?
i will be very sad if crossbows max out at 3fpa, but that certainly explains why they are not popular.
Edit: well, i just thought to look at the str req on that demon crossbow, and it is 141... way out of my league (I have a base str of 60)...
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03-28-2006, 03:32 PM
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| | Unfortunately my favourite calculator have disappeared, so I use this one instead, which is much less transparent. http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/...p?lang=english
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03-28-2006, 05:52 PM
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| | | Thanks, I spent some time playing with the calculator, and now that i see how easy it is to max the attack speed on bows, I will wait for a grand matron. | 
03-29-2006, 05:42 AM
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| | 40s, +3 skills Grand Matron is ultimately the best for faith, of course there are other alternatives, but good call waiting for the GM, and gl with making it 
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