Most powerful caster within the realms..

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Who do you think is the most powerful caster within the realms(Not including gods)? My vote goes to : The Simbul

[Magus]

Elminster, perhaps?

[kenny]

define powerful? there is alot of high level spell casters out there, but i sure as hell hope they dont challenge each other to a spell battle to see once and for all. in the heartlands, you haev elminster, any of the seven sisters, khelban balckstaff, Vandergast, Samm Thas (i think) as he is probably the most powerfull red wizard. clerically, we haev had cadderly, from the cleric quintet, as he was more or less a direct conduit for his god. and who knows whats happening in the underdark or zentil keep.

if you are wanting this info for a campaign, it'd be best to go with whatever caster is closest, as they would hold the most sway over the people of the land. ie shadowdale is elminster, cromyr is vandergast, waterdeep is blackstaff etc.

dont forget that a different type of magic is practiced in chult, adn that evermeet has some pretty powerful elven caster as well.

that any help?

[kenny]

excuse me while i extract my head from my ass. the most powerful caster, wizard wise, definatly is the magister. he cropts up in elminster, making of a mage, and in teh source book The Magister. he is mystras chosen representative on faerun. really, there is no-one more powerful at wizardly magic. not elminster, the sven sisters, no-one. preistly magic-wise, each church has a patricarh, and they are the most powerful preist of that church, generally.

[ 01-11-2002: Message edited by: kenny ]

[jellem]

I believe that logically that the most powerful wizard in the realms should be the king of the Shades. Especially considering the fact that he is the sole surviving archmage from Netheril. I don't know what exactly happened to "Shadow" (his former name during Netheril), but he should kick ass.

[kenny]

logiacaly? no offence ment, but i fail to follow your logic. okay, netheril was powerful, but how can he be more powerful than a person who call dismantle spells as they are being cast at him without batting an eyelid? the Magister is, officaly, the most powerful wizard in the realms.

[Aegis]

What is the full story behind the Magister?

[kenny]

the full story, as far as I know, has yet to berevieled. but this is that it says in teh sourcebook "the magister"

“The Magister” is the title borne
always by a single worker of the magic
arts, chosen by the goddess Mystra as
Her personal champion. Elminster has
vividly told me the details of the choosing
of the latest Magister, one Noume’a,
in the year 1354; her present where-abouts
and powers remain mysterious.
The following quotation from Of The
Wonders of Magery by the sage
Albaerum of Neverwinter describes
both the role of the Magister, and of this
book that bears the same name:
Of old, the mouths of Mystra made
known to all who have Power, this: that
by the blessing of the goddess, one
mage shall be the Lady's champion, and
master of magery. This one, called the
Magister, does not rule, but rather wan-ders
the Realms doing as desired, for
good or ill; and in time is cast down by
other mages, and the mouths of Mystra
shall name a new Magister. Thus the
Art shall live and grow, in strife and
mystery, and never know the stifling
yoke of law nor of authority. And the
Art shall grow stronger, for magely
ambition grows with skill-in-art, and
those waxing stronger will seek out
incumbent weakness; from strife-of-art
shall come greater strength. In the
proper choosing of an enemy, each
Magister brings glory, and greater
strength, to the office. And in the seek-ing
of that office, each magic brings glo-ry,
and greater strength, to the Art.

so, there you go.

[Magus]

I've always thought Mystra was a "Good" goddess. From that description, it sounds like she's much more inclined to neutrality.

[Craig]

Same topic on the wizard board

[Magus]

Thanks craig. Very interesting...those people sure know their stuff.

[kenny]

mystra was originaly a netural goddess. but during the time of troubles, when the mortal known as midnight took up mystras amntal and portfolio, the alinment of the godess shifted to something closer to her mortal one. that amke sence. old mystra netural, after time of troubles, new mystra good.

anyone know if her alinment changed after the events described in Crucible?

[Flagg]

You have to remember that there have 3 different Mystra's. The first "died" when the Netherese Archmage Karsus tried ascending to deity. The second Mystra died during the Time of Troubles.

It holds to reason that the goddess of magic should have some sort of neutral allignment. I believe that they (Wizards of the Coast) are balancing the game by letting the new Mystra be a "good" deity and at the same time introducing Shar's Shadow Weave.

[Magus]

Sounds reasonable enough. Thanks.

[josh]

Who is this Telamont guy they're talking about?