Most powerful caster within the realms..

[Pellinore]

Bigby steps in from Greyhawk and takes them all down with his little known but powerful "Bigby's Low-Blow" spell.

I don't know how they rank in 3rd+ edition but is there stats in the latest editions for Raistlin?

[marakor]

The most powerful if you allow alive or dead ppl from realms history are:

1. Kharsus.
2. Larloch.
3. Ioulaum.
4. Amlaruil Moonflower.


I suppose you could switch around number 2-4 depending on your preferance but kharsus is always gonna be number 1.

[ImaskariAncient]

Kharsus-Unkown dead god? (believe hes neither living nor actually dead/undead)
Telamont Tanthul-Shade, Demi God
Larloch-Lich
Ioulaum-Elder Brain Lich
Ghiz'kith-Sarrukh lich, 1 of the 4 founding races
Amlaruil-Chozen of the Seldarine
Lord Shoon VII-Imaskari Demi Lich
Szass Tam-Lich

The list could go on for a while. Out of em all tho id say Ghiz'kith would be the worst to reckon with imo since hes without a doubt the oldest of em all.
As for Raistlin if he were to convert to FR settings he wouldn't have much power till he learned FR's Magic and even then he wouldnt be nearly as powerful as the aforementioned, tho in DL hes cream of the crop.

[Pellinore]

Raistlin's true strength is his intellect. Very shrewd and calculating he was. If I remember correctly he beat Fistandantilus by outsmarting him rather than straight out power.

[marakor]

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Originally Posted by Pellinore Raistlin's true strength is his intellect. Very shrewd and calculating he was. If I remember correctly he beat Fistandantilus by outsmarting him rather than straight out power.

He outsmarted fisty to gain the knowledge of how to use the bloodstone pendant but after he heard the spell spoken and memorised it they literally did a toe to toe spell battle and almost destroyed fistys home in doing so....a home that survived the impact of the fiery mountain during the cataclysm (as tas survived by being in it if you remember).


There is no caster past or present in the realms that could defeat raislin at the height of his power due to him having the combined power of himself and fisty combined as fisty was 2000+ year old wiz who had spent most of that time training to defeat a god that was the head of her pantheon and raistlin beat him AND added his power on top of his own.

[ImaskariAncient]

Ok Fist was a 2000+ year old lich. Yawn...Larloch is a Netherese lich which is which controls how many different liches, demiliches and hes not even the most powerful lich. I mean in the long run just because Raistlin took fist's power isnt that big of a deal in grand scheme of things. Karsus's took the power of a god (if only briefly). Of course Raistlin took all the gods of Krynn out but only because of a loophole. Speaking of which that wouldnt make much sense since you would think if anything all the gods of good and neutrality if not evil as well would stop him. Of course theres no mention of a overgod stepping in to stop him either which is the whole purpose of the overgods. Raistlin is a very cool character and dont get me wrong i love him and DL and in no way shape or form considering him weak. So despite all ive said ill say Raistlin is would be in the top 10 all time D&D most powerful mages alive. That should appease some people lol.

[marakor]

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Originally Posted by ImaskariAncient I mean in the long run just because Raistlin took fist's power isnt that big of a deal in grand scheme of things.

A archmage that was already one of if not the most powerful mages on krynn then took the power and knowledge of a archmage that had been training and preparing to fight the head of the evil pantheon of gods for over 2000 years is not a big deal?????????????....

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Originally Posted by ImaskariAncient Of course Raistlin took all the gods of Krynn out but only because of a loophole.

The loophole was one of fate not one of a lack of magical ability or power.

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Originally Posted by ImaskariAncient Of course theres no mention of a overgod stepping in to stop him either which is the whole purpose of the overgods.

Even overgods have to allow mortals free will.