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Old 08-12-2004, 09:58 AM
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If anything, I still feel a real soft spot for Planescape Torment. Although it may not be possible, but I would like BG3 to be styled after PS:T; with lots of introspective dialogue and unique character development. Furthermore, one of the characters I'd like to see would be Irenicus. Although the brief history of Irenicus and Bodhi has been covered in SoA, his life between expulsion from Suldanesellar and the capture of the BG2 main char isn't covered, and also as to how he subjugated Spellhold, liased with the drow, and sent Suldan~ into chaos isn't covered as well. Might be interesting to play Irenicus as a main character.
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Old 08-12-2004, 10:03 AM
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As far as other CRPG developers, Baldur's Gate III could certainly end up being developed by someone else. But if you take into consideration that the Baldur's Gate license has some of the most potential for success out of any CRPG franchise available at the current time, I'm betting Atari is going to go with a developer that has a good RPG track record and is composed of designers that are very familiar with the Dungeons & Dragons rules and Forgotten Realms setting.
Well, I may be vox clamantis in desertum (hehe) but I think that the fate of the Child of Bhaal is over. But the child has left many enemies and a grandson of Bhaal behind. IMO, the intended game line when BG1 was written was that the child will have the option to choose between god or human form and the better outcome, or the lawfull good outcome, will be becoming human. So, you may be a grand grand grand son of a deity and that makes you be chosen to some mission.

I'm sorry if you guys disagree with me, but as far as a decent and solid storyline is concerned, Atari games dont atract me much. They usually are nice, and have good gameplay, but the history... pfew. I'd prefer to see BGIII in the hands of those guys who left BIS.

And ToB, ah, ToB was cool but a poor excuse for the end of the child of Bhaal saga.
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Old 08-12-2004, 10:47 AM
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Liquid Entertainment and Turbine are both working on other Dungeons & Dragons games, but they have no single player RPG track record to go by. Bethesda has proven that they can make a fantastic role-playing game, but they have absolutely no experience with the Dungeons & Dragons rules or FR setting (not that it would totally rule them out, though).

Hopefully, we should know the answer within a couple of weeks when the next issue of PC Gamer hits shelves.
I think Turbine is a little out of the question if BG3 is to be announced anytime soon. They have their hands full with D&D Online and will likely have for quite a while (and what I've seen of other MMOG companies, then they seem to keep rather close to the MMO-genre (with the exception of Blizzard)).
Liquid Entertainment I know nothing off.

But then again - I am not very well-wandered amongst the developers

As for Bethesda - I'd really hate seeing them get BG3 untill I know they can create a (with all due respect) more complex game then Elder Scrolls and how they handle the Fallout-licens.

But - I will look forward to the next issue of PC Gamer.
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Old 08-12-2004, 12:33 PM
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I just don't see how a third installment could even bear the Baldur's Gate name without being involved with the Bhaalspawn storyline in some way.
Seems to me that the story for a Baldur’s Gate III doesn’t necessarily have to involve the Bhaal-spawn storyline specifically. If the story involved the actual city of Baldur’s Gate again, it could lay claim to the title (and fan base that comes with it). As I recall, we last visited Baldur’s Gate to deal with an influx of doppelgangers (and Saravok) that had infiltrated the highest citizens in the city. By the time we left, several of the ruling council had been killed, and the police force and merchant class had been left in disarray. I could see a story that dealt with the aftermath of BG1 on the city itself, perhaps leading to the formation of a new government, taking over the merchants, or rising in the ranks of the protective force as goals for the PC (who is not related to Bhaal in any way!). Many unused characters from BG1 could be seen again, including Alora, Eldath, and Skye.
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Old 08-12-2004, 12:59 PM
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wait.... Black Isle was sort of shut down... I thought they announced that they cut BGIII... . So who will make it? So far I haven't really enjoyed the Action/Adventure BG: Dark Alliance things (God I hope it wont be like that)
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Old 08-12-2004, 04:37 PM
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Well what about Sarevok or Imoen

if you cared... and you read what happens to the characters after Tob it says that Sarevok becomes a hero by single handedly annihilating an orc horde or somthing and then one day disapears I am interested in what happens to him.

and then Imoen Starts her own thieve's guild in some city i forgot which. But that smells of game pottential right there
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Old 08-12-2004, 08:18 PM
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if you cared... and you read what happens to the characters after Tob it says that Sarevok becomes a hero by single handedly annihilating an orc horde or somthing and then one day disapears I am interested in what happens to him.

and then Imoen Starts her own thieve's guild in some city i forgot which. But that smells of game pottential right there
Unfortunately if you followed them directly, you'd again be stuck at uber-high levels. Now, if you were a member of Immy's guild...I especially want that instance where (highlight for spoiler) they take on the dragon because he was rude.
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I could definitly see your meeting some of the NPCs from BG2 as they follow their paths as described in the game endings. If done correctly, I could see that as being very, very cool...perhaps even a brief meeting with the PC from the first two games. You could clarify through a few dialogue choices what your character was like in the first two games (much like what is being done with KOTOR2) and then maybe meet, or at least see your old character.

Would be interesting if nothing else .
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Old 08-14-2004, 08:19 AM
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You mean, it takes place during the first two games, and during it, you hear much about what's going on, but your player character follows his/her own storyline?
(sorry if this is old..) That would be really cool, following someone like Minsc, maybe infact Boo is a space alien! and gets minsc into some stupid situation.. or have Edwin lead the wizards of thay, but have some secret quest.

Thing is, in Baldurs Gate II ToB they concluded all of the characters, they said that Edwin took control of the red Wizards but was killed by another up coming wizard, etc with a lil story for each character you played.

So thats out the question, but it would be nice to do something with someone you met in Baldurs Gate, although I really can't think of anyone worth while.

Maybe you could play as Balduran, or the game could be a whole load of kinda mini adventures, like you play as elminster, Gorian, Durlag, etc, and do a bunch of quests, although you would lose all the substantial character development, and it would be almost another Fallout Tactics.
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Old 08-14-2004, 02:29 PM
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I'm sorry if this has been done to death, and I can see that there are definitely two sides here. One consisting of people who want some form of continuation, which I think will make for a boring game, and can and will be viewed as a cop out (by me at least). Then there are those of us who would like the new game to have nothing whatsoever to do with the previous games. It can easily done by picking a completely new location and timeframe. This will eliminate all possibilities of connections between games. But I'm sure that when the time comes someone will have a great idea and there will be people skilled enough to realize it.
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Old 08-14-2004, 04:52 PM
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Just a personal preference, but I agree that it would be nice to find out what happened with all the characters at the end of the second game and just take for example a lackey of Sarevok and he gradually works his way through the game and meets almost all the characters that appeared during the first two games: those that are dead and still alive.

Maybe, Gorion comes back and has some sort of news about the hero from the first two games.

But these are all just thoughts and a personal preference in a lot of cases.

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Old 08-14-2004, 11:01 PM
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I find that the epilogues in ToB informed us quite fine as to what happened to the NPCs after the game ended.

I'm fine with a new location and the like, but I think it should have something to do with the previous game, at least a cameo or something, or a reference. To call it Baldur's Gate III, when it will, in fact, have nothing to do with the previous games (not even remotely), is a cheap marketing ploy that I don't appreciate.
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Old 08-15-2004, 12:26 AM
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Well .... as for the name.
It is only a name, if they stay "true" to the BG-series concept, I have no problem with them naming the game Baldurs Gate 3.

The problem comes if they make a game that is "unlike" the previous in concept - and call it BG, then they are trying to recapitalize.

After all, besides following the same character - Baldur's Gate 2 didn't have much to do with the city of Baldur's Gate, either
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Old 08-15-2004, 12:27 AM
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Agreed. Hopefully it does not happen.

I think the main thing is that you can take a part from the game and just go from there with a RPG. This is probably one of the main reasons that I like them so much, there is normally a way to carry on for the next one.

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Old 08-15-2004, 12:46 PM
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How does this sound? Make the game take place somewhere else and maybe a generation or two later and have those random books some of us liked to collect and horde in our favorite cache chronicle the tales of the bhaalspawn saga. That should keep those of you who want some continuation, closure, or whatever you wanna call it happy, while at the same time allowing for something completely new and fresh. Possibly starting out as a young child hearing tales of these adventurers and asipiring to become an adventurer yourself. No particular intervention that drives you from your home, just a yearning to get out and see the world.
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