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Old 08-17-2004, 04:39 PM
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The only problem with playing BG3 as a god is that you may not have chosen that option at the end of ToB. Playing as another Bhaalspawn is out, since all of Bhaal's taint was removed (ie. everyone either died or gave up their Bhaalness). Although why is it that Imoen could be resurrected if she died? I thought Bhaalspawn turned to dust as their essence returned to the pools?

That said, going up against Cyric and travelling to places like Sigil would be very cool.
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Old 08-18-2004, 02:56 AM
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Yes, you might have chosen to remain a mortal (just like I did).

Anyway, the story can go like your past follows you and you can't deal with a normal, quiet life no matter what you chose. You feel that the road you left behind is still calling you, and the desire to travel and fight just cannot be put aside inside your heart. So, you pull yourself together again and heed the call for another battle, more difficult and more important that even the previous one that you thought had been the last battle of your life. Such is the karma of an adventurer
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Old 08-18-2004, 03:16 AM
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I ask you, what could possibly be more difficult than fighting the High Priestess of Bhaal who intends to claim his power and is able to summon powerful demons to aid her? There's just gotta be a certain point where getting any stronger is just ridiculous, and I think TOB passed that point. How are you going to improve your weapons? Upgrade the Carsomyr to +17 with some magic stone? C'mon guys. It needs to start a new quest.
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Old 08-18-2004, 03:32 AM
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OK, I was just wondering...
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:35 AM
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Ths problems with these scenarios is that you'd be starting at like level 30, or even if it wasn't that high, you'd still be starting at some ridiculously high level. That simply would just be not fun, and has been stated in another thread PC Gamer has stated that BGIII will take place before the BG saga therefore eliminating this ridiculous concept of continuing where we left off and starting with a fresh character from level 1.
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:46 AM
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Yeah, I was only wondering about the story line. True that starting as a 32nd level mage goddess wouldn't be fun at all! Challenge is what we all love these games for, so I don't think they'll spoil it with giving us the chance to import high level chars.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:19 PM
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I think starting off at lvl 1 is too much of a pain. I liked where BG2 began. I guess you could have started us off at lvl 4 or so but less then that make it near impossible for a mage unless he finds a group from the start and even then its a pain.

I cast MM, damn that didn't kill you. Okay let me try to hit you with my dart. Miss. Miss. You hit me with a sword. 6 damage. dead. Reload.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:47 PM
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One point about Planescape Torment, since that's been a subtopic of this thread: Right now, since it's only recently disappeared from the inventory of nearly every store, the price has spiked. I've thought about buying it for the past few months and watched the price jump from 10-15 used, 25 new to 35-45 used, 65+ new. Also, the bidding on eBay has gotten a lot more active, from 3, maybe 4 people bidding on each auction to ten or more. It's pretty safe to assume that prices will drop back down in a few months once supply and demand re-stabilize. Of course there's a chance it won't, but prices won't get any higher than now.

And about BG3, a lot of the discussion is about how the Bhallspawn storyline can continue, when it seems to have reached it's conclusion, and the different ways it could go. Considering the fact that Black Isle created a rich environment in which the Bhallspawn story took place, if I had to guess I'd venture that BG3 will bring something entirely new into that environment which has nothing to do with the storyline from BG1 and 2. If I HAD to guess that is. Considering that this is supposed to be one of the big stories in the next issue of PCGamer (I think that's right, not Computer Gaming Monthly or any of the others) which will be out soon enough, the only thing I hope for in the game is that it doesn't make the mistake of POR ROMD-using an old title to market something that doesn't live up to the original.
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Old 08-25-2004, 12:28 AM
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I think it would be cool to play BG III as an EPIC character and kill lots of tarrasques (ye know, those gargantuan monster that hardly die ).
What about Aeries/Jaheiras/Viconias kid they were waiting, i bet you didn't play the game without some love ?
What if this level 1 teenage kid starts exploring the same paths as his/her father used to walk, finding old NPC's just chilling around and giving quests to the character (lazy bastards as 18-30lvl chars they are), but ignoring to join, allso finding new companions (and companionships ) and new lands, cities and old places to search again: what if the umar would attack in imnesvale this time ? What if Tazok and others would live AGAIN, realizing what you are ?
Damn i could go for this all day

This gave me an offtopic question:
What if ye....um... yer FEMALE character shags with anomen, will the character get pregnant, or is it just impossible ?
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Old 08-25-2004, 01:44 AM
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There's no female character who would .. ehem.. "fell in love" with Anomen (unless she's out of her mind). Who on earth wants to have such a boring whimp in her bed?!
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Old 08-25-2004, 01:50 AM
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I think starting off at lvl 1 is too much of a pain. I liked where BG2 began. I guess you could have started us off at lvl 4 or so but less then that make it near impossible for a mage unless he finds a group from the start and even then its a pain.

I cast MM, damn that didn't kill you. Okay let me try to hit you with my dart. Miss. Miss. You hit me with a sword. 6 damage. dead. Reload.
You're right, of course. A lvl 1 char would never survive in BG II. I have just started to play NWN-HoU and to my great astonishment it starts with a 15th lvl char! (Maybe it assumes that you're over with your adventure with the Wailing...) It's good to feel that I can defend myself, but still I'm not powerful enough to kill 5 foes with a single spell, so it's challenging, too.
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Old 08-27-2004, 01:34 AM
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That's why they'd balance it so surviving with a level one mage would be possible. Take a look at the begining of IWD, for example. You could probably pick up a companion or two before your first fight, as well.

BG1 did it.
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Old 09-11-2004, 09:49 PM
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It would be cool to have a wrinkely old minsc carrying around a dead hamster in a quest 30 years after bg2 ends.

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Old 09-12-2004, 10:33 AM
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I have just started to play NWN-HoU and to my great astonishment it starts with a 15th lvl char! (Maybe it assumes that you're over with your adventure with the Wailing...)
HotU is a direct continuation of SoU where you should have ended it between level 12 and 15.

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It would be cool to have a wrinkely old minsc carrying around a dead hamster in a quest 30 years after bg2 ends.
The only problem with that is I am pretty sure it mentioned Minsc going back to where he came from, so there would be no reason for him to be in the next game (if it was in the future which it probably isn't). Besides, if anything Minsc wouldn't be stupid enough to be carrying around his hamster..he wasn't stupid or crazy exactly. But he might build a shrine to Boo and live the rest of his life caring for the shrine and building a small religion around the teachings of a miniature giant space hamster.

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I think it would be cool to play BG III as an EPIC character and kill lots of tarrasques (ye know, those gargantuan monster that hardly die ).
There is only one Tarrasque..and it doesn't "hardly die"..it DOESNT die unless you WISH it gone.

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I think starting off at lvl 1 is too much of a pain. I liked where BG2 began. I guess you could have started us off at lvl 4 or so but less then that make it near impossible for a mage unless he finds a group from the start and even then its a pain.

I cast MM, damn that didn't kill you. Okay let me try to hit you with my dart. Miss. Miss. You hit me with a sword. 6 damage. dead. Reload.
It is true that you might have some problems soloing as a mage if you were thrust into the adventure..but even in BG1 it didn't do that..unless you skipped all the side quests in the beginning of the game. You SHOULD have left Candlekeep at level 2 or so..and then right away after you leave there, you meet up with Imoen..then a couple screens away you get the two evil pricks as groupies as well. As long as they do something like a "tutorial-ish" thing like they did with BG1..hell, even NWN had one and it worked well..you leave that one at level 3 if you did it right..then everything should be just fine.

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the only thing I hope for in the game is that it doesn't make the mistake of POR ROMD-using an old title to market something that doesn't live up to the original.
Hey now, I personally liked PoR..it was a bit buggy..and it crashed and stuff..but I liked that game! :P


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What I would want in BG3 is prestige classes..lots of em. As long as they fit in with the timeline though. I would love to end up remaking my NWN:HotU character (Fighter/Bard/Red Dragon Disciple)..and the wings would let me fly as well if BG3 is in 3D! Or possibly instead of "Red Dragon Disciple" just have it be "Dragon Disciple" like it is supposed to be, and you pick what dragon variety you want with it.

Basically I want a BG3 to be version 3.5 rules and 3D..which it probably will be.

IF the game starts at like level 4 or 5, allow some higher ECL races/templates..such as a Half-Dragon, Svirfneblin, Drow, etc.
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Old 10-03-2004, 08:36 AM
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possible bosses?

Orcus, Mishka, all them other super Demons... I would love going up against Orcus and/or Mishka. It would be sweet, don'tcha think?

I also agree, there would need to be alot of prestige classes, as well as follow 3.5ED rules. I don't care much for 3d, but it wouldn't dissuade me.

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