watchers keep (spoiler)

softaren · #1 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 07:43 AM

grrrrrrrrr... im stuck at lvl2!! ive screwed the air and slime mage... but how do i get rid of that stupid ice golem? grrr...
soon when someones told me how, you'll die ice golem!!

Aubrey · #2 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 07:55 AM

There is a combination you should do with the elements since they seem one to neutralise the other:

S P O I L E R

Fire beats Ice and vice versa
Lightening beats Slime
Acid and Poison beat Air.

This means that if you try to lure the Ice Golem in the hall, you'll notice that it will be somehow reluctant to follow far away. Just try to lure it a bit outside, close the door behind it and crash it with your fighters.

Warning: don't try to fight inside the Cold Room: the cold will slow your party members.

Good luck!

softaren · #3 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 08:12 AM

but i still cant hurt him outside of cold room? uhm... do i have to get him to the poison lab? ive locked him out of the cold room though.
my best weap is +4 for now and it cant dmg him! not fire spells either... any conclusion?

Hrothgar · #4 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 08:16 AM

You have to turn on the fan and open the doors of the acis/poison room and also the door of the electricity/air room to the poison room and if you open the ice door it will blow a cloud of poison in the room making the ice creatures vulnerable.

softaren · #5 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 09:01 AM

i thought i only needed to push the fan just once ye know. now they're dead and all wishing i wouldnt have entered that lvl...
anyways... im a lvl11 mage with jaheira and yoshimo in my party... think ill be able to finish watchers keep?

VonDondu · #6 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by softaren
im a lvl11 mage with jaheira and yoshimo in my party... think ill be able to finish watchers keep?

If by "finish Watcher's Keep" you mean "kill everything you meet", then the answer is "no". I don't think you can even make it down to the last level, since there are some monsters standing in your way that are difficult even for a high level party (20th Level or higher).

With all due respect, I think you need to be more resourceful when you play the game. For example, you might have been able to figure out how to kill the ice golems on your own if you had read the Acid Mage's journal. It's a bit cryptic, but the second level of Watcher's Keep is meant to be a puzzle, and you're supposed to solve it. You might be used to rushing in and trying to kill every monster you meet (it works most of the time), but it wouldn't hurt to slow down a little, take in the view, so to speak, and think about the things you see. Watcher's Keep is beautifully constructed, and the more I think about it, the more I appreciate it.

Hrothgar · #7 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 09:54 AM

I don't know, cause when I entered I was a lvl 34 undead hunter.
But I heard that the level, damage and type of monsters are compensated to your pc's lvl so I think you're able enough. but the 3rd level of watchers keep is difficult.

Jaesha · #8 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 09:55 AM

@Softaren: Maybe you should come back later, I was lvl.28 while doing it, and it took me quite some time... I had to come back for the final monster after some level-ups because it was way too hard.
Good luck!

Hrothgar · #9 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 10:05 AM

Well if I were you I would take some brute force with me cause with you being a mage + having only a Druid/fighter and a bountyhunter I don't think you really stand a chance so you need a real pure fighter, ranger or palladin. For example Minsc or Keldorn (with Carsomyr of course).
They can take on monsters with melee weapons while your mage casts all sorts of offensive spells. It's a bit hard doing spells while running away from monsters.

I also think you should try some of the smaller quests first (for gaining levels) and return later when you're at least lvl 20.

softaren · #10 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 11:04 AM

yeah i know im a bit lowlvl but ive grown bored with the other quests in soa.. grrr... anyways im lvl 12 mage and 18 berserker... dual you know... but 'now' i am 'only' the mage. actually i wanted to solo the game with fighter/mage but then i didnt want to miss some romancing... so i picked up jaheira... and i needed someone for locks etc so i picked up yoshimo... also for his special traps which are somewhat nice :P
but ill give it a try and proberly return later as you guys think i should...

Hesperus · #11 (**permalink**) 07-07-2002, 09:08 PM

Watcher's (along with the rest of the game) is sensitive to your PC's level, right?

I say go for it in SoA.

I cleared all five levels, without excessive reloading, after the second meeting with Bodhi with a party of 4, my beloved fighter/mage starting @ like lv. 16/15 I believe, along with Jaheria, Imoen, and Jan. I can be soloed, afterall.

We were all rock stars after getting out of there! And when you start ToB and put Cespy to work, you'll have the freaking arsenal!

You just have to be strategic, and mindful of the capabilities of your PC, NPCs, your gear, and your enemies. Simple hack and slash just won't cut it...

khaselri · #12 (**permalink**) 08-10-2002, 01:21 PM

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Demegorgon does he get easier?found him hard to kill with 6 sort of high lvl chars.