Rogue Rebalancing Mod v3.9 released!

[Elessar]

Hi aVENGER
Thanks a lot for your reply. I am copy-pasting the weidu.log file here. sorry for pasting the whole file, but i wanted you to know the individual components of the mods so that you can judge their compatibility.

I guess the only mod i didnt mention was Underrepresented Items.

AFAIK, these should all be compatible with RR except Redemption which is currently untested (though not necessarily incompatible).

I am not too particular about keeping redemption. just thought it would go well with Ascension and role playing in general. Actually, now that I think of it, I can probably let you know if RR is compatible with Redemption or not

Hmm, frankly, I'm not sure. In theory, if you haven't visited the Docks and the Graveyard districts yet, you should be fine. However, it would definitively be safer to start over after installing RR.

As of now, I am going to continue playing the game hoping that if there is any problem it will show up before I go too deep into the game. Will keep you informed on this too...

Thanks again for your help and input...

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tougher Illasera (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Redemption 1.2.0 requires BG2:ToB:Ascension v1.4.xx
~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #1 // New Portrait for Irenicus - for the Ascension/Redemption part only (from the 'Jon with blue flame' poster by Bio)
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shadows Of Amn Item Upgrades
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Throne Of Bhaal Item Upgrades
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Infinite Weapon, Potion and Ring/Amulet Stacking
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #2 // Multi-Class Grand Mastery
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #3 // True Grand Mastery (extra half-attack, etc.) (Baldurdash)
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #4 // Shut Up "You Must Gather Your Party Before Venturing Forth"
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #5 // Faster Chapter 1&2 Cut-Scenes and Dreams (Karzak, Blucher) (SEE WARNINGS)
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #9 // Un-Nerfed THAC0 Table, Saving Throws, Grand-Mastery, and Arcane, Divine Spell Progression (Blucher)
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #11 // Allow Multi-Player Created NPCs to "Wait Here" When Kicked Out
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #12 // Turn Off The Hideous Cloak-of-Mirroring and Spell-Trap Animation
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #13 // Unlimited Bag of Holding (Blucher)
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #16 // Keep Drizzt's Loot, Disable Malchor Harpell
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #17 // No Drow Avatars On Party In Underdark
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #18 // Imoen ToB Dialogue Fix
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #19 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #20 // Female Edwina
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #21 // Romance: Bug Fixes (required for later components).
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #25 // Happy: NPCs won't fight with each other or leave the group.
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #26 // Low Reputation Store Discount (Sabre)
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #28 // Rest Anywhere (Japheth)
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tougher Sendai (ToB Required)
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Alignment Correction
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Class Tweaks/Fixes
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Altered Spells
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Continuity
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Monk High Level Abilities
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #7 // Holy Liberator
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Ilyich (requires ToB)
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Ritual (requires ToB)
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved TorGal and De'Arnisse Keep
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Improved Sahuagin City
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Bodhi
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #5 // Improved Irenicus
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #7 // Improved Twisted Rune
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #8 // "Kuroisan", the Acid Kensai
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Gebhard Blucher's Improved Mae'Var
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gebhard Blucher's Lich in the Docks
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #14 // Kensai Ryu's Gnome Fighter/Illusionist in the Docks
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #16 // Ishan's "Always Toughest Random Spawns in Dungeons"
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #17 // Gebhard Blucher's Random City Encounters
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #18 // Kensai Ryu's Random Wilderness Encounters
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #20 // Improved Golems
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #21 // Gebhard Blucher's Improved Mind Flayers
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #22 // Smarter Dragons in SoA
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #23 // Smarter Beholders
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #24 // Kensai Ryu's Smarter Vampires
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #25 // Slightly Smarter Mages and Liches
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #28 // Göran Rimén's Improved Nymphs
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #29 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Copper Coronet
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #30 // SimDing0's Improved Oasis
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #31 // Mike Barnes' Improved Small Teeth Pass
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #32 // Mike Barnes' Improved North Forest
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #33 // Mike Barnes' Marching Mountains
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #34 // Slightly Tougher Demons
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #35 // Tougher Druid Grove
~SETUP-UNDERREP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Underrepresented Items From Icewind Dale 2
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kelsey v2.1: for BG2 - SoA
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #2 // Install Alternate Kelsey portrait set #1 by Karse Soze (regular Kelsey)?
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install Banter Accelerator script? (Increases the frequency of interparty banter both from Kelsey and other NPCs)
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kelsey: ToB - Version 2
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Ascension-specific dialogue (Requires WeiDU Ascension, v1.4.12 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install Default Kelsey portrait set by Wynne Lurty? (set 1 of 3)
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Alternate Kelsey portrait set #1 by Karse Soze (regular Kelsey) (set 2 of 3)?
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #5 // Alternate Kelsey portrait set #2 by Karse Soze (hooded Kelsey) (set 3 of 3)?
~SETUP-SOLAUFEIN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Solaufein Romance for Baldur's Gate II (SoA & ToB)
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations"
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Hell Minions, by SimDing0
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gorf the Squisher Fix, by Gebhard Blucher
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Yoshimo's Original Portrait
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Anomen's Original Portrait
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // NPC Portrait Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Justifier Kit
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Feralan Kit
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse

[aVENGER_[RR]]

Originally Posted by Elessar

Hi aVENGER
Thanks a lot for your reply. I am copy-pasting the weidu.log file here. sorry for pasting the whole file, but i wanted you to know the individual components of the mods so that you can judge their compatibility.

Ok, a few suggestions. First, I don't see the G3 BG2 Fixpack in your log so I assume that you are using Baldurdash. While Baldurdash won't cause any problems per se, it doesn't fix some of the recently discovered bugs which can, in term, lead to some issues when it is used with recently updated mods (such as RR) that have been extensively tested in the G3 Fixpack environment. In particular, there's an odd original game bug in AR0800.BCS which can prevent the "Shadow Thief Improvements" and the "Chosen of Cyric" components of RR from starting. Unfortunately Baldurdash doesn't fix this so chances are that you might encounter it on your playthrough. In any case, it's strongly recommended to use RR alongside the G3 BG2 Fixpack as it is much more comprehensive than Baldurdash and is regularly getting updated.

Furthermore, I'd replace Ease of Use with G3 BG2 Tweaks as the latter fully supersedes the former and is written in modern WeiDU code which ensures better compatibility with other mods.

[Elessar]

Thanks a lot for your patience and help.

I did go through the links you mentioned.

Ok, so I am planning to remove my current modded BGII SOA folder and restore my old unmodded but TOB, bonus merchant patched one.

Then I am going to re-install all the mods (including RR this time ), skip ease-of-use mod, and then install the G3 tweaks in the end (or do you suggest putting the G3 tweaks before RR??). I am planning on skipping redemption this time as I dont want to risk any serious bugs when I am about to finish TOB (as you said RR was not tested with redemption).

Thanks again for your help

[aVENGER_[RR]]

Originally Posted by Elessar

Thanks a lot for your patience and help.

Ok, so I am planning to remove my current modded BGII SOA folder and restore my old unmodded but TOB, bonus merchant patched one.

Sounds like a good plan. BTW, if you need some tips for building and maintaining a clean install check this thread on PPG.

Then I am going to re-install all the mods (including RR this time ), skip ease-of-use mod, and then install the G3 tweaks in the end (or do you suggest putting the G3 tweaks before RR??).

For the recommended install order and a list of fully compatible mods see the RR Compatibility Thread.

[Elessar]

took a look at the links. pretty useful...

thanks a lot for your help aVENGER_[RR].

[aVENGER_[RR]]

The Rogue Rebalancing mod has been updated to v3.9. In summary, this release adds several new items to the game, revises some of the items which were introduced in the previous versions of the mod, further expands the "Revised Thievery" component with an option to use the PnP variety of thievery potions and enhances all AI scripts that are used in Rogue Rebalancing through Detectable Spells. In light of these changes, the compatibility with other mods and the recommended install order for Rogue Rebalancing have changed. Please consult the revised Compatibility Guide for more details. The first post in this thread has been updated with the full list of changes.

[aVENGER_[RR]]

The Rogue Rebalancing mod has been updated to v3.91. In summary, this minor update improves the compatibility with the "EasyTutu" and "Beyond the Law" mods, fixes a few small bugs and updates Detectable Spells to the most recent version. Here's the full list of changes:


Core component changes:

• Resolved a conceptual incompatibility issue between the "Additional equipment for Thieves and Bards" component of Rogue Rebalancing and the "Beyond the Law" mod. In order to prevent the incompatibility, Arledrian's new quest which is introduced by Rogue Rebalancing will not occur if Kova or Kiyone are in the party
• Some G3 BG2 Fixpack content was erroneously mirrored on EasyTutu installations through Rogue Rebalancing. This will no longer occur as EasyTutu already contains those fixes
• Fixed some minor cosmetic issues with the Mass Charm, Enthralling Melody and Sound Burst HLAs
• Reduced the "casting" range of the Bounty Hunters' Special Snares to 1. In effect, this means that the Special Snares can no longer be thrown across the screen
• The Blade's "Weapons Display" ability will no longer be affected by spell failure, dead magic and wild magic zones
• Updated Detectable Spells to the latest available version (the same as in SCSII v7)
• Made some minor code optimizations

Changes to the Chosen of Cyric component:

• Spell Triggers/Sequencers which contain hostile spells will now properly break the Invisibility (but not Improved Invisibility) of enemy spellcasters who employ them
• Updated Detectable Spells to the latest available version (the same as in SCSII v7)
• Made some minor code optimizations

Changes to the Shadow Thief Improvements component:

• If the party chooses the stealth path, the alarm in the Shadow Thief guildhall basement won't be activated automatically upon entering the area. In that case, deviating from the stealth path (i.e. by taking any hostile actions and/or triggering certain traps) will raise the alarm instead
• After he is freed, Tizzak will attempt to hide in shadows and quietly sneak out of the guildhall without alerting any opponents who may be nearby
• Spell Triggers/Sequencers which contain hostile spells will now properly break the Invisibility (but not Improved Invisibility) of enemy spellcasters who employ them
• Updated Detectable Spells to the latest available version (the same as in SCSII v7)
• Made some minor code optimizations

[aVENGER_[RR]]

The Rogue Rebalancing mod has been updated to v3.92. In summary, This small maintenance release fixes a couple of stray bugs, improves the compatibility with the One Pixel Productions mod and updates Detectable Spells to the latest available version. Here's the full list of changes:


Core component changes:

• The Lingering Bard and Skald songs will no longer erroneously stack multiple times before expiring
• The base price for Sparkburst has been increased
• The compatibility with the One Pixel Productions mod has been improved. The "Legacy Shields - Bucklers" component of that mod will now be automatically detected and utilized as long as it is installed before Rogue Rebalancing
• Updated Detectable Spells to the latest available version (the same as in SCSII v8)

Changes to the Chosen of Cyric component:

• After spending all of his invisibility potions, Venduris would sometimes stand around idly instead of attempting to hide in shadows. This has been rectified
• Venduris' Ring of Concealment no longer erroneously protects the wearer from the Glitterdust spell and now properly protects the wearer from the Oracle spell
• Updated Detectable Spells to the latest available version (the same as in SCSII v8)

Changes to the Shadow Thief Improvements component:

• On certain occasions, Aran Linvail's Mislead clone would remain stationary instead of running away. This issue has been rectified
• Updated Detectable Spells to the latest available version (the same as in SCSII v8)

[aVENGER_[RR]]

The Rogue Rebalancing mod has been updated to v4.0. In summary, this major release further revises the Thief and Bard HLA tables and tweaks their respective kits a bit further. Optionally, Rogue Rebalancing can now restore the proper PnP racial adjustments for thieving skills and allow Cromwell and Cespenar to upgrade some of the items which are introduced or altered by this mod. The first post in this thread has been updated with the complete list of changes.

[aVENGER_[RR]]

The Rogue Rebalancing mod has been updated to v4.1. In summary, this minor release alters the Alchemy and Scribe Scrolls HLAs in order to make them more customizable. Characters using these abilities can now choose which potion/scroll they wish to create. Furthermore, this update gives characters a chance to talk their way out of trouble after failing to steal an item from a store. The new dialogue options which make that possible are dependant on the character's mental attributes. Here's the full list of changes:


Core component changes:

• The Alchemy HLA has been slightly revised. Characters using this ability can now choose which potion they wish to brew. However, the raw material cost for brewing a potion must now be paid and the ability can no longer be used in a hostile environment (i.e. during combat). Furthermore, Bards can now brew certain potions that Thieves cannot and vice versa
• The Scribe Scrolls HLA has been slightly revised. An arcane spellcaster using this ability can now scribe any spell that he can cast onto a scroll. However, the costs for any raw materials that are used in the process must be paid and the ability can no longer be used in a hostile environment (i.e. during combat)
• The "Revised Thievery" component now gives characters a chance to talk their way out of trouble after failing to steal an item from a store. These dialogue options are dependant on the character's mental attributes

Changes to the Chosen of Cyric component:

• Resolved a minor compatibility issue with the "Maximum HP for all creatures in the game" component of G3 BG2 Tweaks. That component previously altered the hit points of a specific character who is supposed to die during a cutscene sequence. This will no longer occur
• Minor code optimizations

Changes to the Shadow Thief Improvements component:

• Minor code optimizations

Changes to the Upgradeable Equipment component:

• Cromwell can now upgrade the Keeper of the Law if you bring him a Brine Potion
• Fixed a harmless response duplication in Cromwell's Returning Frost Dart upgrade dialogue