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08-20-2001, 11:45 PM
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| | OH!, so 'now' they make a sperate forum? | 
08-21-2001, 06:51 AM
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| | @Reigns - Buck is a very busy man we should be grateful not scornful
After all it wasn't Buck that posted the spoilers was it? The responsibility has always been with the posters to alert other members - and I agree that does not happen often enough...
Thanks Buck! 
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08-21-2001, 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by ReignsOfPower:
<STRONG>So now they decide to make a seperate forum??? Now after I have read all of the Spoilers!?
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:: points at him:: Ha-HA!
[ 08-21-2001: Message edited by: rapier ] | 
08-21-2001, 12:46 PM
|  | Exalted Member | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Surrey, England
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| | rapier, you're a ****.
@Regins
Did you alert Buck to the spoilers? The time I told him about a spoiler, it was gone within 5 minutes. Then I ran into a couple more, and posted my argument over on the GD board, as to why we needed a seperate ToB board.
Thus we have one.
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08-21-2001, 01:14 PM
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| | I don't get it too, why they make a special TOB-forum. O well, nobody has been hurt, so its all ok. | 
08-21-2001, 04:19 PM
| | Exalted Member | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: arizona
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| | I really don't understand the second forum thing at all. ToB is an expansion, not another game. wtf? I guess some people are just extremely anal control freaks that can't handle reading a spoiler even when it is clearly labeled "spoiler" with ample room given to pass it by. is there some confusion as to what the label "spoiler" means? if you don't want to read it, then don't read it!
this message is primarily directed at quitch for chiding me after I posted a clearly marked, and relavant, ToB spoiler in the SoA forum. | 
08-21-2001, 07:58 PM
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| | Problem is, alot of people post spoilers without warning or thinking. Someone can make an offtopic remark that is a spoiler.
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08-22-2001, 12:01 AM
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| | O K mAN! I wasn't being serious or anything. Can't you guys take a joke?!?
@Yshania
omg, stop sucking up to the Admins. Sheesh! hahaha
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08-22-2001, 04:06 AM
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| | Quote:
Originally posted by Quitch:
<STRONG>rapier, you're a ****.
</STRONG>
| a ****? Hmmm... | 
08-22-2001, 06:20 AM
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| | rapier, you're a ****.
err.. a sweetie?
ohh no
... a cutie?
almost there
a DARLING
that must be it.
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08-22-2001, 10:11 AM
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| | "ToB is an expansion, not another game."
Heh... well TOB may officialy be an "expansion" but basicaly most of it works like a new game.
Compare TOB to the BG1 expansion:
1. In TOSC the areas were added to the main map (and accessable anytime), and changes were made to the original game to compensate for the characters increased power (from added items and increased XP cap).
2. In TOB only one area/dungeon is added to the old game. The rest are not added till you start a TOB game, and at that point you can't go back to the older areas. Yes it does affect SOA, but in more of a chessy way than as an expansion. That is I mean the "big bosses" of SOA are not made any tougher, even though the characters are made insanely powerful (if TOB is installed).
The only reason I think they even call it an exapnsion is its size. Its very small IMO compared to SOA. | 
08-22-2001, 11:42 AM
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| | Quote:
Originally posted by Tom:
<STRONG>rapier, you're a ****.
a DARLING
that must be it.</STRONG>
| :: nodding :: Yup, that's probably what he meant...well, thankie!
[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: rapier ] | 
08-22-2001, 12:02 PM
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| | @Quark: Watch your language. Rapier didn't do anything but some friendly teasing. You'd best be careful before you get yourself into a predicament you can't get out of. | 
08-22-2001, 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Aegis:
<STRONG>@Quark: Watch your language. Rapier didn't do anything but some friendly teasing. You'd best be careful before you get yourself into a predicament you can't get out of.</STRONG>
| :: hides behind Aegis :: Damn right!
No, really, I'm sorry if I offended anyone, just tell me, and I'll edit it away... | 
08-22-2001, 12:33 PM
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| | Quote:
Originally posted by Goblynlord:
<STRONG>
The only reason I think they even call it an exapnsion is its size. Its very small IMO compared to SOA.</STRONG>
| Compare ToB to the Icewind Dale expansion (Heart Of Winter). HoW improved the graphics, but the expansion could be completed in under 12 hours (supposedly) This was not acceptable, and neither is ToB, usually the expansion is just a cash in.
Look at it this way, BG2:SOA had 3 versions of the original game released, all these added were some shop keepers, and in theory to get all the addons (legitimately) you would have to spend upwards of £60. Whereas ToB was £20 (expensive for an expansion) a lot more of an expandion than those small adances with collectors edition etc.
It all comes down to money in the end, how many of you bought ToB without reading a single review? The expansion was for the fan base, and they hope it attracts a few new customers.
Even with this conclusion they still make patches, which seems strange to me, they care about their fan base, but they still release (to most peoples opinion) a substandard product and then spend the next few months patching it. it is just more proof of how contradictory the games industry is. I could give you reasons for this, but this post it already too confusing/long 
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