Imoen as a thief

Bentz · #1 (**permalink**) 08-13-2003, 09:15 AM

well, i've just began to play tob. it's been a year since i've finished soa, so it's taking me some time to get used again to all those magics and stuff.
anyhow, i've taken imoen as a thief (i wantes yoshimo but he was already taken...) but she doesn't seem to be that useful, 'caues so far she just doesn't detect any traps. she has 80 points on this one. is it to low? i can't increase it cause she's dual to mage. so what's now? she's kinda useless in the traps thing, and i'm just in the begining og the game (prison level 2).
whay should i do?

fable · #2 (**permalink**) 08-13-2003, 10:36 AM

Without meaning to insult you--you did remember to set Imoen to detect traps, right? Thieves don't do this automatically. It also helps if they're leading the party, so that they don't detect something from the back of the group just as your leader walks straight into it.

Bentz · #3 (**permalink**) 08-13-2003, 02:12 PM

yeah, i know it. detect traps, it's F4 if i remember right.
that damn woman. wonder what's wrong with her.
i really need her to do her job right. don't want her to
fight. don't want her to cast any spells, just detect traps,
is it too much to ask?

Camilla · #4 (**permalink**) 08-14-2003, 08:13 AM

I've always used Imoen and had no problems with her not finding traps. However as I near the end of the game I discovered that I should have had another thief since she's no good at setting snares. She can pick locks and detect traps but setting snares is utterly useless. Fails every time!
This resulted in me not being able to kill one of the bad guys. I don't think you need to set snares to get through the game, but in some cases it could be very helpful.

Bentz · #5 (**permalink**) 08-14-2003, 09:40 PM

for it's ok, the woman suddenly began doing her work.
as fo her abilities as a thief, you're absolutly right. my first choice was yoshimo since he's a pure thief, who can do anthing imoen does + very good traps. her abilities as a spellcaster are not as much as efficint since i'm a sorcerer and i've got aerie and anomen for addition. how's jan comparing to her? better?
can he set traps?

Camilla · #6 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 01:21 AM

I've heard Jan is pretty good, but he doesn't really fit in in my party. And if I have him join me now right before the fight he's just as useless as Imoen. I think you have to have him with you from the start and have him advance a couple of levels before his traps are any good. But once he's worn in my impression is that he's great for setting traps.

Bentz · #7 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 03:03 AM

it shouldn't be such a problem for me since i'm in the begining of tha game (prison level 2). i dunno, it's a hard desicion.
too bad yoshimo's busy...

VonDondu · #8 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by Bentz
too bad yoshimo's busy...

If the game tells you that Yoshimo can't talk to you because he appears busy, that's a well-known bug and you need to get the Throne of Bhaal patch.

Bentz · #9 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 06:57 AM

oh, what i meant was that he i can't get him 'cos there's something with his soul or somrthing like that. since he betrayed me he's doomed. i think. and i really liked him.

VonDondu · #10 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 07:15 AM

Sorry, I got confused. Actually, Yoshimo isn't "busy" at all; I'd call it something else.

Bentz · #11 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 02:27 PM

very well, how would you call it?

the prob is that the game doesn't offer you aby decent thievs.
and that sucks.

Xandax · #12 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 02:36 PM

Personally I used Jan for all my thieving "pleasures".

Galuf the Dwarf · #13 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 03:35 PM

Oh, and some advice I'd thought I'd give that I noticed. Watch out when it comes to equipping elven chain mail on Imoen or any other thief of any sort. Thieves get penalties to their skills for wearing elven chain or anything above leather armor. Studded leather could possibly do this, but then there are magic suits of studded leather that are meant for thieves (The Night's Gift, Shadow Armor, some like those) that are wearable by thieves, and yet they get no skill penalties.

For Imoen, I would suggest you give her a mage robe, preferably a Robe of Good Archmagi, since those haven't seen to limit her thieving capabilities AND allow her to cast magic at the same time. I would suggest the same for Nalia (if you ever take her EVER), but not as much for Jan (unless a robe would seem like a better choice to suit his needs).

Oh yeah, and speaking of Jan, unless there's a mod that permits it, there doesn't seem to be a Robe of Neutral Archmagi available ANYWHERE in SoA.

Ron_Lugge · #14 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
Oh yeah, and speaking of Jan, unless there's a mod that permits it, there doesn't seem to be a Robe of Neutral Archmagi available ANYWHERE in SoA.

IIRC, there's a merchant in trademeet with one.

And I, personally, call Yoshimo "Damned" or "Screwed" depending on my mood. (Please tell me that using "damn" in the metaphorical sense is allowed! I'm not using it as a swearword, after all!)

Galuf the Dwarf · #15 (**permalink**) 08-15-2003, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Ron_Lugge
IIRC, there's a merchant in trademeet with one.

And I, personally, call Yoshimo "Damned" or "Screwed" depending on my mood. (Please tell me that using "damn" in the metaphorical sense is allowed! I'm not using it as a swearword, after all!)

I thought that was the Robe of the Good Archmagi?