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06-07-2002, 04:26 PM
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| | | Minsc had some great on the spot quotes, but I think I preferred Haer'Dalis. I like the lovable rogue thing, especially as he has no real objection to danger, and annoying the forces of law and order. He's just over-the-top on purpose, where Minsc really believes that jazz. ^_^
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06-09-2002, 03:44 AM
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| | "Bondari reloads." 'Nuff said.
BTW, Minsc isn't stupid, he's brain-damaged. Some of the things he says are actually very wise. And he's not really in his own little world; his thoughts just come to him a little differently than they come to everyone else.  | 
06-09-2002, 07:26 PM
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| | | My vote's for Mazzy!
I love her her arguement with Jan, and then Anomen puts in his two cents. I just find it hillarious when she forcefully squires Valygar. I love her dialogues! She's so...so...spunky!
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06-10-2002, 11:13 AM
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| | Minsc, wielding Lilarcor
*slaps Aerie*
Hang on - I too just remembered Bondari. It still brings a smile to my face after all this time...     Stick my vote in for him and his mates - maybe Ode would get along well with them? 
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06-10-2002, 05:34 PM
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| | Oh my gosh. Imoen! SHE is the funiest in ToB.
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Imoen/Anomen - They have a rather...interesting talk about sex.
Imoen/Korgan - They have a conversation when they start hurling serious insults at eachother. The talk looks as though it will end in a fight, but Imoen calls Korgan a "Gullydwarf" and he decides that he approaves of her attitude. Good one!
Imoen/Keldorn - Keldorn catches her stealing his ring. Imoen goes off saying that she was looking for an excuse to get a little "closer" to Keldorn...and his muscular body. She tells him she was just joking in the end. (Imoen and these Order of the Radiant Heart guys...Jeeze!)
So now it's among Mazzy, Imoen, Jan and Anomen. I almost always die laughing at these four!
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06-11-2002, 01:35 PM
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| | | Earlier in this thread, I said Edwin was the funniest NPC, and that may be true in SoA. But in ToB, Jan rules! He had me in tears with his story of his "old cracker smuggling days."
Also, have him talk with Sir Anomen, twice Jan pisses Anomen off nearly to the point of burying his mace in Jan's melon. Hysterical.
Oh, and to anyone who I offended by calling Minsc "stupid," I'm sorry. Poor choice of words. He's "challenged."
BTW, if you think Imoen giving Korgan a hard time was funny, you should hear Aerie tell Korgan a thing or two. And then threaten to cast a shrivelling spell on his manhood. Priceless! | 
06-29-2002, 10:54 PM
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| | | Edwin or Korgan, they both crack me up, but in different ways.
I dunno if it counts, but Lilarcor is funny as hell too. | 
06-30-2002, 01:17 AM
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| | Hey, Aqua-chan, don't forget the "tale from Candlekeep" about Winthrop and the dust demons that Imoen made up and told to Jan. Or the time that Imoen pestered Valygar, causing him to remark, "For someone who supposedly has her soul tainted by the evil of a dead god, you remind me considerably of a chipmunk with a sugar high and a death wish."
I think the dialogue between Imoen and Korgan that you mentioned and the dialogue between Aerie and Korgan that brian0182001 mentioned are intended to shed some light on Korgan's character. The reason why he pesters and insults people is because he enjoys getting a rise out of them. At one point, Korgan says to Anomen, "Ach - that's what I'm here fer! To open old wounds and pour in a big bag o' salt!" When Anomen tells him off, Korgan says, "'Twas merely a jest, my surly cleric. Since ye cannae take a joke, I'll leave ye be." When people fight back, he admires them. When Imoen rises to the challenge, he says, "Yer a fine, fine lass, ye are, Imoen. That Gorion of yers would be proud!" When Aerie finally tells him off, he says, "Aye, that's what I been waitin' fer. You'll be blushin' fer a week when ye calm down and realize what ye've said, lassie! My work here is done - Har, har har!" You might have thought he hated Aerie from the fights he started with her in Shadows of Amn, but as it turns out, that wasn't true at all.  If the main character is female, he even hits on her in jest!
But you know, even with all the humor, there are still a lot of chilling moments in the game. For example, if you let Imoen give up part of her soul to restore Sarevok (instead of letting your main character do it), there's a dialogue between them later on. It begins with Imoen teasing Sarevok: "So...Sarevok. You've had an itty-bitty piece of my soul in there for quite a while, now. What's it been like?" His reply is very funny: "(sigh) Well, other than a slight obsession with my weight and the outbreak of a few pimples, it's been simply grand." But after that, the conversation turns very grim, and we're reminded that the characters have been through a lot of terrible experiences.
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06-30-2002, 02:07 AM
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| | Why is it that I would get along with Bondari and co., eh Kam?
They were pretty funny, but I wish I could have let Aerie handle them when they attacked my PC instead of turning into the Slayer.
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06-30-2002, 03:05 AM
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| | My vote goes on Edwin for his great remarks during the game 
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06-30-2002, 09:11 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by VonDondu Hey, Aqua-chan, don't forget the "tale from Candlekeep" about Winthrop and the dust demons that Imoen made up and told to Jan. Or the time that Imoen pestered Valygar, causing him to remark, "For someone who supposedly has her soul tainted by the evil of a dead god, you remind me considerably of a chipmunk with a sugar high and a death wish."
I think the dialogue between Imoen and Korgan that you mentioned and the dialogue between Aerie and Korgan that brian0182001 mentioned are intended to shed some light on Korgan's character. The reason why he pesters and insults people is because he enjoys getting a rise out of them. At one point, Korgan says to Anomen, "Ach - that's what I'm here fer! To open old wounds and pour in a big bag o' salt!" When Anomen tells him off, Korgan says, "'Twas merely a jest, my surly cleric. that's what I been waitin' fer. You'll be blushin' fer a week when Since ye cannae take a joke, I'll leave ye be." When people fight back, he admires them. When Imoen rises to the challenge, he says, "Yer a fine, fine lass, ye are, Imoen. That Gorion of yers would be proud!" When Aerie finally tells him off, he says, "Aye, ye calm down and realize what ye've said, lassie! My work here is done - Har, har har!" You might have thought he hated Aerie from the fights he started with her in Shadows of Amn, but as it turns out, that wasn't true at all. If the main character is female, he even hits on her in jest!
But you know, even with all the humor, there are still a lot of chilling moments in the game. For example, if you let Imoen give up part of her soul to restore Sarevok (instead of letting your main character do it), there's a dialogue between them later on. It begins with Imoen teasing Sarevok: "So...Sarevok. You've had an itty-bitty piece of my soul in there for quite a while, now. What's it been like?" His reply is very funny: "(sigh) Well, other than a slight obsession with my weight and the outbreak of a few pimples, it's been simply grand." But after that, the conversation turns very grim, and we're reminded that the characters have been through a lot of terrible experiences. | I've never had Jan and Imoen in my party at the same time, so I don't know thier compatability.
Edwin, I just find dull...
That Valygar comment to Imoen: I love that one! That was probably the best dialog he's had (out of very few)!
But, Korgan is more nuetral than evil, I believe. Sure, he's all blood and gore, but he's actually more gentle (!?!) then people make him out to be. Like you said about him and Anomen -- that's exactly right. He tests a person's will power and mental strength to make sure tha they're doing OK with the current situation. Maybe it's also because he's making sure that they remember...well, their histories and remember what they've lost.
...Or, maybe I'm just ranting myself into neverworld.
Either way, it is something to think about...
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07-01-2002, 08:17 PM
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| | | Got to vote for immy
to minsc: I want a hampster
as then minsc tries to explain boo isn't for sale | 
07-07-2002, 09:09 AM
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| | | Lilarcor I just simply love lilarcor!!! | 
07-09-2002, 11:21 AM
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| | VonDondu and Aqua-Chan, I think your commentary about The Dwarf and the other NPCs is just right on.
My vote is certainly for Jan. And even though he is CN he has a solid core of values. He is also real laugh with Sarevok, he gets him really worked up  Viccy, Jan, and Sarevok overall have some fun dialogue. I agree that Sarevok has some chilling moments, like his comments when walking around a city (like, "these are pawns for those who know how to use them"). Jeez, like an evil Aristotlean. (Do you think he'd enjoy a novel by Ayn Rand?) Sarevok has to be the clearest case of an evil alignment. Though I still feel for him in his post-adventuring days, as he mourns his lost love...
Overall, my heart is for Viccy. She has nerves of steel, is always at the ready for anything (eg. "the merciless slaughter of our foes awaits!"), and like Korgan, has much more to her than the alignment suggests. Oh, and those drow do know some naughty things...
Do any of you perform dubious acts to keep your evil NPCs happy and promote group cohesion? Some of my PCs have from time to time, but it is bothersome for a good-aligned person... I mean one could grin and bear it for the purposes of the greater good (like keeping happy companions to efficiently attain the big goals), but I don't like stretching the alignment too far... I know there is a mod to keep them happy at any reputation, but it kinda defeats part of the alignment purpose, though it could be in an evil person's interest to keep a high reputation. Where is that file again?
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07-09-2002, 11:49 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Hesperus Do any of you perform dubious acts to keep your evil NPCs happy and promote group cohesion? | Oh, yeah, all the time.
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