Swashbuckler or fighter/thief?

[Bruce Lee]

Which do you guys think is better? A swashbuckler a dual fighter/thief or a multi fighter/thief. When I started playing I thought a dual fighter to thief was better for sure but now I am not sure. I like the swashbuckler.

[rapier]

The fighter/thief has better weapons, but the swashbuckler has sweet bonuses...I prefer the swashbuckler...

[Dúnadan]

Whether or not you want to have the ability to backstab also comes into play...

[Angelus]

The problem with the swashbuckler is that he can't backstab, but if you want a decent thief who can hold his own in a melee, go for swashbuckler

I'm playing a dual fighter-thief, but I wanted to backstab and figured I won't lose anything on the thief's side if I dual from a fighter to get the better thac0, more HP and the multiple stars in weapon skills.

[Bruce Lee]

But who has the better thaco? Swashbuckler or multi or dual?

[Angelus]

I think the multi-class has the best thac0.
He advances on every level up as a fighter and on every second as a thief.

The swashbuckler advances every second level and gets another +1 every 5 levels.

The dual-class is mainly for people who want to play a pure thief with some decent fighter abilities.

[Bruce Lee]

Originally posted by Angelus:
<STRONG>I think the multi-class has the best thac0.
He advances on every level up as a fighter and on every second as a thief.

The swashbuckler advances every second level and gets another +1 every 5 levels.

The dual-class is mainly for people who want to play a pure thief with some decent fighter abilities.</STRONG>

I don't think multiclassed characters recieve thac0 bonuses from their thief side. I think it is the fighter class that count because it is better. Did that make sense? I am gonna check it out but I believe it is gonna be close, however the multiclass has more attacks than the swashbuckler.

[Angelus]

Yep, you are right he doesn't get thac0 bonuses as a thief.

So, I think a fighter-thief and a swashbuckler should have almost the same thac0 with about 1 point difference depending on the level each one is.

One other problem with the swashbuckler is that he doesn't get the extra 1/2 attack for 2 proficiency stars in a weapon.

[Craig]

1 word MULTI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bruce Lee]

Multi classed characters and swashbucklers actually have the same thaco, if they have the same strength and the multi is wearing helm of balduran.
Multi has 3/2 more attacks per round.
Multi has better saves.
Swashbucklers has a better ac by four but cannot wear helmets or use shields. Swashbucklers do hit harder.
Swashbuckler have 175 more skill points to distribute.
Multi has one more profiency point and a wider choice of weapons.
Multi can ofcourse backstab.
Overall multi is better but swashbuckler is more fun.
This is my conclusion and the stats are at the cap. I left out dual classed theives cause they are only for backstabbers.